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Old 04-24-2002, 08:09 PM   #1
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Question RS Turbo questions

I just have some overall questions. From some of the posts on this board I get the impression that turbocharging the RS is bad news, especially if you don't know what you're doing (like me).

But what's a good way to get to know what you're doing?

Also what does a project like this cost?
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Old 04-24-2002, 08:20 PM   #2
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It's not bad news as long as you prepare yourself and educate yourself.

Start here and make sure your read the entire thead.
Things to figure out before picking parts for your turbo project

Costs vary, but if you buy a kit (FAT, Vishnu, Ludespeed) your looking at atleast $3000, plus extras.
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Old 04-24-2002, 10:47 PM   #3
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Yup, I was a newbie is the turbo subject...wait, I am still a newbie.
Anyway, I learned what components are needed depending on the planned setup; then I further researched on each component I needed, and found out what do they do, and why do I need them.
It ain't too hard, but time consuming to learn them well
Like kastle said, purchasing a kit will cost quite a lot of money; so be prepared to invest fair amount of cash into the project.
If you buy my partial kit, though, that will save you a lot comparing with the a kit

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Old 04-25-2002, 03:41 AM   #4
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If your looking for the cheapest reliable setup, it will cost you under $3000. You could get a kit from ludespeed. I think the stage one is like $2350 and get a J&s for $500 and a egt gauge gauge for $150 if you shop around at ebay. You won't have to worry about detonation with the safeguard and just run low boost.
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Old 04-25-2002, 03:48 AM   #5
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You won't have to worry about detonation with the safeguard and just run low boost.
excuse me?? you ALWAYS have to worry about detonation...especially if you are relying on stock fuel injectors.

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Old 04-25-2002, 02:02 PM   #6
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With proper setup and safety electronics
you can have a reliable setup by running low boost. Is that better? Geez!

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Old 04-25-2002, 02:06 PM   #7
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ludespeed's kits now come with the parallel rail fuel mod.
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Old 04-25-2002, 08:58 PM   #8
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ludespeed's kits now come with the parallel rail fuel mod.
or you can hack up your own for 5 bucks

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Old 04-25-2002, 11:41 PM   #9
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excuse me?? you ALWAYS have to worry about detonation...especially if you are relying on stock fuel injectors.
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With proper setup and safety electronics you can have a reliable setup by running low boost. Is that better? Geez!
I was running just a meezly 4.4 lbs of boost and baked my engine, although, I may have spiked. The KEY to success is engine management. Any other option is just a half assed rig job to stretch the time till it does break someting. It's just not right. You will always have to worry. You will always run the risk of failure. It happens without warning too. And trust me, it's just not worth the risk. It's damn expensive to rebuild the engine. If I had purchased full on PEMS it would have cost me less in the long run. WAY less. Hind sight is 20/20. Full on PEMS is the "right" way to do it. Period. There is no other reliable long term solution.

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Old 04-26-2002, 06:01 AM   #10
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hey paul

my kit is in and so far i have yet to hear knocking or detination....i have the RRFPR tuned all the way to max so im running super rich....i am not taking any chances so i have my ITC going in as soon as i get it from the mail....did you tune your fuel?? why were you spiking...i can barely get it over 3lbs. right now....my EGT is kindda low...only 800-1300....so what do you think?? thanx

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Old 04-26-2002, 06:11 AM   #11
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I think your getting a new o2 sensor soon and your MPG is trash...

But hey, it is reliable right? So it is all good!

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Old 04-26-2002, 09:24 PM   #12
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I think your getting a new o2 sensor soon and your MPG is trash...

But hey, it is reliable right? So it is all good!

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MPG?? oh yeah thats trash all right...how bout 12-15 MPG...i filled my gas tank about 4 days ago and almost running empty....and i live on an island!! the O2 sensors won't affect the engine like cutting off fuel right?? i would think if the O2 reads waaaayy too rich that it will start leaning it out...hopefully not...thanx

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my kit is in and so far i have yet to hear knocking or detination....i have the RRFPR tuned all the way to max so im running super rich....i am not taking any chances so i have my ITC going in as soon as i get it from the mail....did you tune your fuel?? why were you spiking...i can barely get it over 3lbs. right now....my EGT is kindda low...only 800-1300....so what do you think?? thanx
Hugh,

No pinging? Great. Keep it rich till you get your timing control goodies in. I did have the RRFPR up. I can't think of any good reason why I smoked #4. This is the first cylinder to get fuel too. I don't know for sure if I was spiking or not. I am running the 4.4 lbs spring. It may be relaxing prematurely due to heat or something. Who knows. These small little bugs are the reason one should install a stand alone ECU. As far as your EGTs go, I had similar values on my meter. I never got over 1350. Never. However, I bunged #3 for the probe and not #4. Go figure.... Did you get the 4.4 lbs spring with your kit? You should be closer to 4.5 to 5 lbs with that spring. Perhaps your meter is off a few pounds or so. Is it an Auto Meter gauge? Scootr has an Auto Meter gauge and his is off too. He is running around 6 lbs and his meter reads only 3 lbs. You may indeed be running more boost than you realise. Also, you have a higher humidity factor on the Islands too. This also may play a role in why you have not pinged yet. Just a thought....

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Old 04-27-2002, 09:45 AM   #14
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Hugh, how many cats do you have in your exhaust? O2 sensors can very well determine how rich/lean you are running, especially if they aren't connected or if there broken. The purpose of the O2's is to monitor the cats and make sure they are running efficiently, and also to keep your A/F ratio stoich.

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Hugh, how many cats do you have in your exhaust? O2 sensors can very well determine how rich/lean you are running, especially if they aren't connected or if there broken. The purpose of the O2's is to monitor the cats and make sure they are running efficiently, and also to keep your A/F ratio stoich.

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hey Graham

as far as i know there's only one cat and it came with my turbo kit...my air/fuel gauge isn't working correctly....my installer didn't know where to tap the wires....the first o2 sensors is better for the gauge right?? thanx

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