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Old 06-10-2009, 01:47 PM   #1
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Default What should a timing belt job cost?

Timing belt, water pump, cam seals, oil pump seals.

Just looking for a ballpark. Trying to decide if my mechanic (who I otherwise like) is in the right ballpark, or if I should try someone else.

I've already read the sticky thread with recommended mechanics. There aren't too many listed in Seattle, but there are a couple.

My car supposedly had the timing belt replaced 15k miles ago, but the previous seller doesn't have any paperwork. Any hints for guessing on the age of the timing belt? I'm comfortable popping off the covers and inspecting it myself, I just don't want to change it myself (no garage, I just work in the street).

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Old 06-10-2009, 01:52 PM   #2
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call around and see what shops say
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:54 PM   #3
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call smart service or PIA...they'll both be competitive
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:13 PM   #4
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I've had work done at both Smart Service and PIA. Both are great shops, and are the only 2 shops in the area i'd really trust working on my Subaru.

Month or so back I got a quote for timing belts, seals, water pump on our Forester XT from Smart. I recall it being close, but under $1500 after taxes. Unfortunately, I don't recall the exact amount, but it seemed very reasonable to me.
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:45 PM   #5
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What year/ model is your car? The cost varies a bunch based on SOHC, DOHC, Turbo, NA, etc..
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:48 PM   #6
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my quote for the bugeye was right around 1500 for the same thing....seems like the price everybody pays...and if not someone tell me where u got it done for less please!!!
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:27 PM   #7
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1776795

Check here.....449 for the belt only.....$1500?!
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:36 PM   #8
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wow, $1500??
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:46 PM   #9
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wow, $1500??
Most shops charge 5 to 10 hours labor minimum for the job...the rest is in parts. Since the first belt change is now at 105K miles, do you think the idlers, tensioner, waterpump, and seals will last to 200K miles? OEM price on those parts can come close to $800. The better shops do it all unless the customer instructs them not to.

Look at it this way, if you have the job done every 100K miles, that's 1-1/2 cents per mile.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:49 PM   #10
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I'd buy all the parts myself and then just pay the mechanic to do it. A subaru trained mechanic should have it all done in under 2 hours if he's honest.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:49 PM   #11
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1776795

Check here.....449 for the belt only.....$1500?!
Read the ad; that doesn't include all new parts along with the belt. But a good price if it's done properly.

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Old 06-10-2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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$20,000
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:45 PM   #13
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Read the ad; that includes all new parts along with the belt. A very good price if it's done properly.
Timing Belt Replacement - $449
-The timing belt is recommended to be replaced at 100K.
-New OE Subaru Timing Belt (inc)
-New Premium Goodyear Drive Belts (+$45)
-New OE Hydraulic Tensioner Assembly (+$150)
-New revised Subaru lower timing belt idler (inc)
-New OE Subaru oil pump seal (inc)
-Coolant flush (inc)
-New OE Subaru Water Pump (2.0L +$125, 2.5L +$145)
-New OE Thermostat (+$20)

copied from Outback post:
we get a belt, idler, oil pump seal, coolant flush.....

Extra costs if needed: drive belts, tensioners, water pump, and thermostat.

The only thing you get new is a belt and oil pump seal
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:08 AM   #14
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I'd buy all the parts myself and then just pay the mechanic to do it. A subaru trained mechanic should have it all done in under 2 hours if he's honest.
A lot of shops rely on both the hourly job rate AND the markup on the parts to survive.

Meaning, if you bought your own parts, and brought them in, you could face an additional charge, or a higher hourly rate to compensate for their loss of revenue.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:21 AM   #15
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A lot of shops rely on both the hourly job rate AND the markup on the parts to survive.

Meaning, if you bought your own parts, and brought them in, you could face an additional charge, or a higher hourly rate to compensate for their loss of revenue.
What??!!??!! You mean they have to make money? No way. Oh wait...electricity, rent, phone lines, interwebz, taxes and all that jazz aren't free? That's crazy...and to think people have to pay their mortgages and stuff too. huh. I guess you learn something new everyday...thanks for passing on the info.

Anyway, back on topic. Yes, a timing belt change is around $1k for parts and labor...water pump is standard procedure. So is the tensioner. Pulleys are debatable, but definitely a good idea. Most people looking to skimp on stuff are going to opt out of the pulleys ($50 - $60 ea)...at least, that's been my experience. Of course, if a pulley freezes up, a brand new timing belt isn't going to mean **** because that frozen pulley is going to om nom nom your timing belt and...bye bye motor.

my $0.02
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:33 AM   #16
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I told PIA I'd bring my own parts and they gave me a flat fee to do everything.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:44 AM   #17
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The OP hasn't even posted what car he's got yet..

What engine is in your ride?
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:14 AM   #18
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Take it to John at Outback... Very smart and has decent prices!!!
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:02 AM   #19
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Make sure you do the little blue idler pulley as well. It usually goes bad no matter what!
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:39 AM   #20
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The OP hasn't even posted what car he's got yet..

What engine is in your ride?
2.2 NA. It is a 1998 Outback Sport.

Most of the prices sound very in line if not slightly higher than what my mechanic (High Road automotive) quoted. I really like these guys, so I'll schedule to have it done there. Thanks for the input, it is useful to know ballpark prices on this stuff.

I love these guys because I took my car in for a basic oil change and as part of the that they gave me back a ~5 page report with potential issues that they found along with relative importance of fixing them. Some I knew (like I probably needed a new timing belt), some I suspected (signs of being a little out of alignment), and some are news to me (whoever last changed the belts did a bit of a hack job and used the wrong fasteners on the AC belt tensioner with a huge stack of washers to make up the distance).
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