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Old 06-12-2009, 01:38 AM   #1
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Default '07 WRX TD05 20G Tomei turbo - 362/392

I finally got the car to a nice, balanced combination of parts. Everything was going well until I ran out of the stock MAF @ 5500RPM, so we added a hard inlet, TGV deletes/8mm spacers, and a KS Tech 73mm intake, and I had it dyno tuned by Matt @ 555 Motorsports. The dyno belongs to Komet Motorsports in St Charles, IL. I've spent a lot of time on this dyno, had my heart broken more than once, and even lost my stock motor on it, so it was nice to go back.

I don't yet have the graphs scanned, but I do have a few that will be posted. Unfortunately, since I didn't get the results sheet printouts, I only have the uncorrected numbers. I can call Komet and get those too and post that up as well.

WE NOW HAVE A GRAPH:
This is my car vs. my best on pump gas before I added TGV deletes/spacers, hard inlet, and 73mm intake.



My best run was 362whp/392ft-lbs, and we ended up dialing it back a bit to keep it safe, and ended up with 354/391 uncorrected. This is on a very low reading Mustang dyno where a stock 2.5L WRX makes 165whp and a stock STi makes 220whp. It's harsh. In fact my car matched a rotated 35R car tuned on pump gas. That car made 365/335, and I was within 3hp and had a 30ft-lb advantage almost 1000rpm earlier.

As far as driving impressions go, it's a whole new animal. It's very smooth, but very violent. The torque no longer comes on gradually...it ramps up almost vertically, and the car has this very weird, ominous feeling when boost comes on. I'm expecting traps around 120+

Thanks for reading. Stay tuned!


UPDATE (kind of):
I finally took my logs and ran them through the Airboy spreadsheet - scary how close it turned out:


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Old 06-12-2009, 02:00 AM   #2
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Awesome power.. so you dialed it back 8whp/1wtq to keep it safe??

I forgot.. you're on PPG's right?
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:08 AM   #3
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If I remember right from riding in the car he has a 6speed. Those numbers are great! That is making me wish I would have went with that turbo instead of a Green. Did you only do the dyno or did you do some road tuning too?
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:51 AM   #4
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It's on a JDM 6-speed with an HKS twin plate, and matching R180. No road tuning yet, just a quick dyno tune before the MWSOC Shootout.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:54 AM   #5
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man, get some logs and post in the road dyno thread

so you needed an engine too sucks but worth it after it is payed for lol
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:33 AM   #6
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very nice!
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:41 AM   #7
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I got a ride in this car last night... all I can say is my ride home in my car was no longer exciting and it made me sad BUT that being sad, this car is one of the coolest feeling cars I have ever ridden in, the feeling it gives you once he gives it some gas and anger/love makes u feel like your about to get slammed threw your seat. its a violent ride that comes with a feeling of peace. Glad he finally got it where he wanted it =) Good luck at the shootout, and thanks again for the ride
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:06 AM   #8
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its a violent ride that comes with a feeling of peace.
you know how I know...
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:26 AM   #9
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lol 120+mph on pump gas?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:30 AM   #10
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man, get some logs and post in the road dyno thread

so you needed an engine too sucks but worth it after it is payed for lol
I'll have to get logs from Matt. All I know is we did the calculation very quickly @ Komet and according to the Airboys spreadsheet, the car makes 418/375. While the peak numbers look alright, it forgets about the torque and curve is way off....almost like it's expecting an inline 4. Maybe we did it wrong.

I didn't need an engine...it was more an installation error that took out the stocker. Now that I have it though, time to run it.

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I got a ride in this car last night... all I can say is my ride home in my car was no longer exciting and it made me sad BUT that being sad, this car is one of the coolest feeling cars I have ever ridden in, the feeling it gives you once he gives it some gas and anger/love makes u feel like your about to get slammed threw your seat. its a violent ride that comes with a feeling of peace. Glad he finally got it where he wanted it =) Good luck at the shootout, and thanks again for the ride
Anger/love?

Thanks man.

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lol 120+mph on pump gas?
Why the lol? What's your STi running?

Technically it's pump gas.

I'll have some graphs up in a little bit.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:38 AM   #11
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It's a road race car, but we went to the drag strip on the old 61 and went 11.9 @ 117 on 19psi. I'd love to see how this turbo performs on a road course where I think it would really shine!
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Are your numbers on e85 or 93 octane?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:58 AM   #13
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It's very smooth, but very violent.
Now that's some nice writing! Makes me feel I'm in the driver's seat!
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:03 AM   #14
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It's a road race car, but we went to the drag strip on the old 61 and went 11.9 @ 117 on 19psi. I'd love to see how this turbo performs on a road course where I think it would really shine!
Yeah, this really isn't a drag car with the JDM 6-speed. It's got enough suspension to get out on a road course, and I'm doing that this year. I just think we can get it decently quick this year.

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Are your numbers on e85 or 93 octane?
100 octane.

My full mod list:
-KSTech 73mm intake with K&N filter (so big the hood doesn't close all the way until I get a 45 degree bend )
-AP hard inlet
-Tomei ARMS M7760 turbo, internally gated
-JDM TGV deletes
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-JDM STi V7 Spec C heads/valvetrain
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Now that's some nice writing! Makes me feel I'm in the driver's seat!
Thanks!

There's no other way to describe it. The torque ramps up quickly, and pretty smoothly, but the amount of torque and the way it hits combined with short 6-speed gearing and a twin plate = a little bit of violence.

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Old 06-12-2009, 11:07 AM   #15
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Adam i thought you sold the Tomei turbo and got a new turbo??
Nice numbers

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I was considering it, but seeing as we have an RS with no motor and trans at the moment, I re-evaluated my priorities.

Plus, I wanted to see what this would do on its final tune...though now I'm wondering if I should get a FMIC, because the Spearco, as much as I wish I could say it was ice cold the whole time, was working its ass off on the dyno. No matter how much I sprayed it, it stayed pretty warm.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:22 AM   #18
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I was considering it, but seeing as we have an RS with no motor and trans at the moment, I re-evaluated my priorities.

Plus, I wanted to see what this would do on its final tune...though now I'm wondering if I should get a FMIC, because the Spearco, as much as I wish I could say it was ice cold the whole time, was working its ass off on the dyno. No matter how much I sprayed it, it stayed pretty warm.
Makes sense, Komet needs a fan that blows air directly onto the TMIC to keep it cool
See ya at the shootout

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Makes sense, Komet needs a fan that blows air directly onto the TMIC to keep it cool
See ya at the shootout

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They need a P&L setup, but at the same time... without having it and using a waterbottle + that big fan in front, this will at least deter from tuning to the edge.... because im more then sure the TMIC isnt that hot when driving in real life cause of the hoodscoop, but i agree with adam, that spearco is basically maxed out....
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:33 AM   #20
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Makes sense, Komet needs a fan that blows air directly onto the TMIC to keep it cool
See ya at the shootout

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I agree.

See ya there! Thanks for the kind words.

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They need a P&L setup, but at the same time... without having it and using a waterbottle + that big fan in front, this will at least deter from tuning to the edge.... because im more then sure the TMIC isnt that hot when driving in real life cause of the hoodscoop, but i agree with adam, that spearco is basically maxed out....
Never thought about it from the tuning standpoint, good call.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:41 AM   #21
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nice man congrats , your cars looks stock hehe
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:22 PM   #22
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wow i remember this car from mfactory gear set section.
this car is built now!!! I wish i had built engine too...
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nice numbers bro. I can't wait to take another ride and see it scream at the shoot out!
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I'll have to get logs from Matt. All I know is we did the calculation very quickly @ Komet and according to the Airboys spreadsheet, the car makes 418/375. While the peak numbers look alright, it forgets about the torque and curve is way off....almost like it's expecting an inline 4. Maybe we did it wrong.
You can not use data logs collected on a chassis dyno in the spreadsheet for calculating horsepower.
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nice numbers bro. I can't wait to take another ride and see it scream at the shoot out!
I'll take you out in it Saturday. Thanks!

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You can not use data logs collected on a chassis dyno in the spreadsheet for calculating horsepower.
Should I get some logs under actual road conditions and try it again? I should be able to do that pretty easily. I didn't take the chassis dyno factor into account.
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