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Old 06-17-2009, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default Maverick Gas sucks?

I was reading a for sale post and the seller of the car mentioned that they never used gas from Maverick. Does the gas there suck or something?
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:15 PM   #2
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It's generally regarded to be of lower quality than the big name brands, largely due to a lack of the detergents included in stuff like Chevron. Costco gas is even worse.

I stopped filling my Subaru up at Maverick stores. For vehicles I don't care about I'll still buy there.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #3
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Its all the same. I've never been able to tell a difference ever in gas I've used in my car. I'm at 30,000 on maverick gas no problems. Do you think a company that big would sell gas that would harm your motor? It all comes from the same place anyways.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:53 PM   #4
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Reason why there gas is so cheap, is they buy the left over gas from the local refineries. So it is the bottom of the barrel gas.
If you notice at the north point of the mountain, that Chevron has its own refinery. This means that the gas gets made here, and sold here (gas does get old quite fast). Not brought in from other states, where it sits in a truck for days and gets old.
On a stock car its fine, but I dont even put there gas in my winter car.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:55 PM   #5
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so you really think chevron gas is that much better?
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:19 PM   #6
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A guy I worked with drove a gas truck for X company and he said it was typical to stop by Maverick if he had any gas remaining in his tank. Not only was he dumping the bottom of the barrel gas but they would have him top off any other grade fuel regardless of what he was carrying (88 octane in 91 octane). He told me not to buy Mavrick gas long before I read it on this forum. That is why I stick to Chevron, not saying that stuff like that doesn't happen there....
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:22 PM   #7
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OMFG, people......

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...-tell-you.aspx

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3. "My gas isn't better for your car; it's just more expensive."

Oil companies spend lots of money explaining why their gas is better than the competition's. Chevron's gas, for example, is fortified with Techron, and Amoco Ultimate is supposed to save the planet along with your engine. But today, more than ever, one gallon of gas is as good as the next.

True, additives help to clean your engine, but what the companies don't tell you is that all gas has them. Since 1994, the government has required that detergents be added to all gasoline to help prevent fuel injectors from clogging.

State and local regulators keep a close watch to make sure those standards are met; a 2005 study indicated that Florida inspectors checked 45,000 samples to ensure the state's gas supply was up to snuff, and 99% of the time it was.

"There's little difference between brand-name gas and any other," AAA spokesman Geoff Sundstrom says.

What's more, your local Chevron station may sell gas refined by Shell or Exxon Mobil. Suppliers share pipelines, so they all use the same fuel. And the difference between the most expensive brand-name gas and the lowliest gallon of no-brand fuel? Often just a quart of detergent added to an 8,000-gallon tanker truck.
If you really want to get GOOD gas, I would more check for places that have 3 separate lines in their pumps, so that you know that you aren't getting a hose worth of 85 in with your 91. And make sure to use SeaFoam, or the Redline stuff, or some other fuel additive like once an oil change to keep things clean.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:36 PM   #8
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ya i didnt think they were very different...
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:59 PM   #9
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It's generally regarded to be of lower quality than the big name brands, largely due to a lack of the detergents included in stuff like Chevron. Costco gas is even worse.
Costco Gas is from the same company as Tesoro... which is crap. I work at the Costco Gas station


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so you really think chevron gas is that much better?
Ya chevron is a much better gas that is why it is so much more expensive than all the others... remember the techron is like the fuel additive you use to keep your car clean.


I am working on a secret project to increase gas mileage and it will also clean my engine as it works too... just tweaking out the minor details now
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:06 PM   #10
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I am working on a secret project to increase gas mileage and it will also clean my engine as it works too... just tweaking out the minor details now
maybe e85?
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:18 PM   #11
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hmm.. well i've always put in maverick gas. one, they one of the only two stations in town park city. i've had a club card forever so take an extra 4-5 cents off every gallon . and i was tuned on it with no problems.....

so there's my experience..
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:22 PM   #12
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ive always used maverik as well...so has everyone in my family
our cars run just fine

thats why i dont think they are different
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:05 PM   #13
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I only drink the soda from higher priced stores like Smiths or Harmons because Walmart soda is the bottom of the barrell stuff.

That's why it's cheaper right?
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:36 PM   #14
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Lol. Some of you finally have the point.

It's federally mandated that you use detergents in your gasoline. So, truth be told, they're more or less the same.

It's like trying to argue that skim milk is what they get from using water to hose out those milk trucks after they empty the whole milk. Urban legend.

If anyone is interested, I've been thinking about getting a couple of ounces of 91 oinktane from a couple of different places, and seeing if my dad can use the mass spec at his work to do a chemical rundown of them all comparatively to see if there really is a difference between them or not. Who all would care to see that?
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:37 PM   #15
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When I went to get the Evo tuned DynoFlash Al cranked my boost up too high (so no matter what a 91 octane map should knock) Costco knocked like no tomorrow and pulled timing like a mofo. Shell was just about as bad (the one down here by main and 21st-ish) and Chevron had hardly any problems (still problems, because the idiot didn't realize I was boosting 23 pounds instead of 21, but certainly significantly fewer problems).

And yeah, Walmart stuff is cheaper for a different reason. But I build my computer with parts from Best Buy and Costco, they work just as well as NewEgg parts... (In case you don't know computers, BB and Costco etc type computer parts are nearly as crappy as buying a Dell)
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:39 PM   #16
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If anyone is interested, I've been thinking about getting a couple of ounces of 91 oinktane from a couple of different places, and seeing if my dad can use the mass spec at his work to do a chemical rundown of them all comparatively to see if there really is a difference between them or not. Who all would care to see that?
How bout just getting the car tuned to it's razor sharp limits on Chevron gas, and switching around and doing a knock/timing check? Not sure how much I trust Al, it may have been he was just saying those things because he didn't want to admit he was an idiot. Good thing loggers can actually log and change the boost now...
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:49 PM   #17
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reason why I hate Maverik gas is I have personally notice difference in the way the car acts. I haven't used Maverik gas since 2003 when my car the pinged like crazy with it. once I switched gas to chevron or conoco, problem went away.

I personally use Conoco gas first, then Chevron, and then Shell.
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:50 PM   #18
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If anyone is interested, I've been thinking about getting a couple of ounces of 91 oinktane from a couple of different places, and seeing if my dad can use the mass spec at his work to do a chemical rundown of them all comparatively to see if there really is a difference between them or not. Who all would care to see that?
I would for one. I want to know the levels of long vs short chain hydrocarbons in each brand of gas. Long chains = good, short chains = knock.

In my old 2.5 rs, if I used maverick or 7-11 gas, I'd ping going up hills. Chevron gas never did that to me, so I wonder what exactly is the difference.
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Chevron FTW, just ask the tuners! John @ COBB for example.
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My car loves Maverick gas. It's adventures first stop.
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I want to kill that "You gotta have some of these!" redneck from their commercials.
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:51 PM   #23
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All I know is that if the ACTUAL CHEMICAL AND IONIC breakdown is close enough to the same, I will laugh at all the people whose butt-dyno says X brand is better than Y brand.

But then, I care less about the gasoline I put into my car and more about the oil...
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I want to kill that "You gotta have some of these!" redneck from their commercials.
INORITE?! That guy is THE very reason that I refuse to buy ANYTHING from Maverik if I can help it. IDK if they got the memo, but he is not cool. He is the biggest poser douchenozzle that I have had the misfortune to cast my eyes on in quite some time, with exceptions made for Uwe Boll and that kid from Florida who has been mutilating cats.
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douchenozzle yes!
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