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Old 06-25-2009, 08:49 PM   #1
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First the car: 2004 WRX Sedan lowered by H&R Springs and Whiteline rear camber bolts.
The setup: Enkei NT03+M 18 x 8 +35 with Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 235/40/18
Problem: Rear tires rubbing when hard cornering or hitting big bump.
What has been tried: Had the fenders rolled by a shop. Messed with camber a little.

Story: I finally got tires for my summer wheels and I put them on and go for a drive and they rub like crazy. So i figure i better get my fenders rolled and that should take care of it. So I got them rolled by a reputable shop and it is much better but still when I hit big bumps or take a hard corner they still rub.

I then looked up messing with the camber a little to make them fit better. not much just a little so I dont screw up my wear too bad. Finding info on adjusting the camber was very difficult and i did not have the directions to do so. I finally figured out I need to have the tab thing pointed away from the wheel with the arrow on the bolt pointed toward the wheel. Again made a little better but still rubbed.

I am now kind of lost. I dont understand how guys fit 9" and 10" wheels? When I'm having problems with my 18 x 8. And yes I know my tires are pretty big for 18 x 8's but still? Do i need more negative camber? Do I need to go get an alignment and see what they can do? Are my rear struts blown?

If you have any suggestions or ideas please let me know. Please keep your negative comments to yourself. Thanks for your time!
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:08 PM   #2
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what is your camber set at right now on the rear? that is a big offset so that has to be why you are still rubbing so bad. but still i'm surprised if you are only lowered on springs.. it can't be that low..
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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I'm kind of a newb at the whole camber/caster thing. How do I check what my camber is at and how do I adjust it more?
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:32 PM   #4
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do you have a copy of the alignment sheet you got from the place that did it? or did you try to adjust them yourself? i'd recommend going to a good local alignment shop if i were you. tell them you want your camber set at ___. -1 to -1.5 is a pretty basic camber setting for our cars. since you don't have coilovers with camber plates your adjustments will be limited. if you can't get enough camber you can also buy some camber bolts from a shop.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:35 PM   #5
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It's the +35 offset. I've run both 18x8 and 18x8.5 with a 235-40-18 tire and +48 offset with on rubbing. Lowered on coilovers and no fender rolling.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:37 PM   #6
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but he should still be able to clear that no problem.. i'm on 17x8 et44 235/40's. i'm lowered (too) low on coilovers and only had to roll my rears. and i'm a wagon... my fenders clearance is tiny tiny.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:43 PM   #7
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Well Unfortunately the owner before me had a alignment done and I haven't since. I guess i'll try that next. Yeah I wouldn't think I would have problems making them fit. I've seen guy with the same offset with wider wheels and tires.
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but he should still be able to clear that no problem.. i'm on 17x8 et44 235/40's. i'm lowered (too) low on coilovers and only had to roll my rears. and i'm a wagon... my fenders clearance is tiny tiny.
True, but it seems to be more work than it's worth. Fitting a 235-40-18 tire on a 04 WRX sedan is easy with the correct offset.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:52 PM   #9
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agree'd, but he has the wheels already lol. and 35 offset isn't really that crazy. but yeah start with getting the alignment checked..
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First problem. +35 offset.
Second problem. There's no camber adjustment in the rear. If you want to add more rear camber, you need to get rear camber bolts or camber plates. Then get a good alignment.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:20 AM   #11
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he has rear camber bolts...
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:41 AM   #12
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I was talking more in general. So specifically, the OP needs to get an alignment. Unless you're doing your own alignmenets, you need to take it to a good shop that does custom settings.

I still say the big problem is the +35 offset. Get some wheels with a higher offset.
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^^ ....this would be your easiest and best solution...
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as many have already said it's the 35mm offset that is causing the problem
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wrong wheels
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:31 PM   #16
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let it rub those wheels sound sick
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