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Old 06-27-2009, 10:50 PM   #1
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I've been searching and searching on this and keep getting conflicting info. Do you absolutely have to get Ray's lug nuts if you have Volk wheels? Or can you get any aftermarket lugs that look the same? Please help cuz I have Volks sitting in my living room that I would love to put on. Thanks wheels gurus.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:17 PM   #2
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:39 PM   #3
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Nah, I doubt it. I'm sure that you would be able to run whatever lug nuts you wanted as long as they are the correct type to match the wheel.

Example - You wouldn't want to run the factory style acorn lug nuts on a wheel that has the lug nuts recessed into a narrow well.

I personally run the McGard Spline Drive lug nuts and have been very happy with them. Granted, I am running them on the '04 STI BBS wheels and not Rays wheels so my application may be slightly different than yours as I am not sure which wheel you are running.

http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/mcgard.htm
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:41 PM   #4
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I've got volk gt-c. I called a performance wheel shop in my area that sells volks. All I asked was if they stocked Rays lug nuts and he said "no". I asked if they stocked any lug nuts and he said "no, but do you have Volks?" and I said "yes" and he said "you have to use Rays it's the only thing in the world that will work", all arrogant like . I think he's a tard a just wants to sell me something expensive.
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:55 PM   #5
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any tapered after market lug nuts would be fine. for eg. using project kics R40s on volks would be fine, probably even better since they look better than rays!
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i think the aftermarket wheels just require any 60degree (i hope the number is right) tapered lugs. most of the aftermarket lugs you see on nasioc should be fine.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:23 AM   #7
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thanks guys, i really didn't want to spend $150 on lug nuts. I wouldn't even have Volks if I didn't get an absurd deal.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:15 AM   #8
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My brother runs the McGard lugs with his CE28's so it shouldn't just be limited to Rays lugs
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incorrect with gtc's you must run the lug nut specially designed for the gtc's check rays website ・Forged (Seamless) Rim 2 piece Wheel (Reverse Rim)
・Color: Spark Silver, Mercury Silver (Extra 3,000 yen)
・Special color: Extra 3,000 yen
・Included (for 17, 18, 19 inches): Valvestem, Hub Ring, Specific C Nut, Specific Wrench
・Included (for 20 inch): Valvestem, Hub Ring, 17 HEX specific Nut, Long Adapter
・Optional accessories: Center Cap
・Prices of parts: Valvestem 1,200 yen
・Taxes are not included in the prices.
・17 inch: As soon as stock disappears, it'll be a production end
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correct me if im wrong though
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kink is right, for the GT series Volk wheels u need to use the special Rays lugs with a flat base thats meant for the GT series wheels.
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Volk wheels require the "SAME" type of lug nuts used for all other aftermarket brand wheels. But the Rays lugs are definately bling bling.

Flat lugs = stock oem wheels
Beveled lugs = aftermarket wheels
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A picture is worth a thousand words. You can see how they are different from regular lugs.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...tegory_Code=L1
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:50 PM   #14
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Volk wheels require the "SAME" type of lug nuts used for all other aftermarket brand wheels. But the Rays lugs are definately bling bling.

Flat lugs = stock oem wheels
Beveled lugs = aftermarket wheels


wrong... oem (Subaru) wheels still use a 60 degree cone seat, the lugs just have less of a seating area, but are still 60 degree cone seats. Aftermarket lugs have more seating area to distribute more weight as well.

The reason why you might use SPLINE lugs is because the holes on your after market wheels make it too tight to fit a regular 19mm socket into the recess to get around the lug. That's why they have acorn bulge nuts and spline nuts, they take smaller sockets. You can even get a thin walled impact socket for just this reason.

OP should contact his vendor who is selling him the wheels and ask if standard 60 degree cone seat spline/bulge nuts will fit, or any 60 degree seat lug.. you can choose if you want the inverted key or not... the important part is to know what the seat on the wheel and lug pattern is.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:00 PM   #15
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You do not need special rays lug nuts. I had Volk GT-7s on my prelude and I used Mcgard lug nuts. As long as you get aftermarket lug nuts with angled (non stock/conical) seats you should be fine.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. You can see how they are different from regular lugs.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...tegory_Code=L1
"These Rays Engineering inverted lugs are made specifically for use with the Volk GT-C and AV3 wheel. Do not attempt to mount these lugs on any other wheels!"

Again, it depends on the type of wheel the OP specifically has. There appear to be a few very specific Volk wheels that require special lug nuts. Other than that it should open up the door to most aftermarket lug nuts as long as they are the appropriate type for the specific wheel.

Based on the fact that the OP did state that he has the Volk GT-C wheels then he will need to get the above specific lug nuts. Now there may be other aftermarket brands out there that also sell this type of lug nut, but for that I am not sure. Since these are special lug nuts that match to your specific wheel though, I would probably get the Rays Engineering lug nuts and not even think twice about it as you know they are designed specifically for those wheels.
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"These Rays Engineering inverted lugs are made specifically for use with the Volk GT-C and AV3 wheel. Do not attempt to mount these lugs on any other wheels!"

Again, it depends on the type of wheel the OP specifically has. There appear to be a few very specific Volk wheels that require special lug nuts. Other than that it should open up the door to most aftermarket lug nuts as long as they are the appropriate type for the specific wheel.

Based on the fact that the OP did state that he has the Volk GT-C wheels then he will need to get the above specific lug nuts. Now there may be other aftermarket brands out there that also sell this type of lug nut, but for that I am not sure. Since these are special lug nuts that match to your specific wheel though, I would probably get the Rays Engineering lug nuts and not even think twice about it as you know they are designed specifically for those wheels.
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i have a set of volk gt-c wheels. you have to use that special pattern lug nuts.

don't think anyone posted yet but heres a link to those lug nuts.
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Templa...093&SearchYN=N
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