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Old 06-30-2009, 06:54 PM   #1
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Default Colo and N.M. drivers wanted !!

Here's a shameless plug for the NASA Rocky Mountain Region.

We have an event at PMP (Pueblo Motorsports Park, Colo) coming up 7/11-7/12 and registrations are down. There is a possibility of cancellation if we don't get some more drivers signed up for either HPDE, Time Trials or Racing. As a full-fledged track junkie, I might go into some kind of seizures should it get cancelled. Event registration is here https://www.nasaproracing.com/event/852

Here's some more info: http://www.nasaproracing.com/aboutnasa/

Almost all of NASA's dates include race groups and Time Trials, but more importantly to any of you aspiring track addicts, HPDE. If you are not familiar, the HPDE (high performance driving event) is an opportunity to take your car out on on track, with an instructor at first, and learn some high speed driving technique. After completing at least one weekend with the instructor you get a chance to move up through the groups (1-4) with speeds and passing zones increasing with each level.

My reasons for trying to promote this event are many, including that it is simply the most fun you can have with your clothes on, NASA is an awesome group etc. I also would love to see more Subies out there, especially wagons !! There is nothing more fun than passing a Vette, or out running a Porsche in a practical car. Get out and drive !!

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Old 06-30-2009, 07:11 PM   #2
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What does my $300 buy me with NASA? Insurance coverage etc?

How much is NASA Membership?

Its a hard sell, when track days closer to home in NM are much cheaper and closer.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:55 PM   #3
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The membership is $45 and includes a subscription to what has become my favorite mag. Grassroots Motorsports. Yes, insurance is covered by fees. Registration for Pueblo is $250 for both days.

Do you go to ASR and Sandia ? Those are cool tracks, and yes at $50-$80 a day, both are track day bargains. There's a lot more fun and better safety at a NASA weekend IMHO though.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:32 AM   #4
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Yes, insurance is covered by fees.
Do you mean insurance covering damage done to yourself or your vehicle on-track?

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Old 07-01-2009, 01:13 AM   #5
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Hey Cullen!

No, NASARM's fees doesn't cover insurance for your car for an on-track incident. NASA does provide instructors (allowing you to find speed much faster than a standard track day), corner workers, and a structured environment. Plus there's great racing action and Pueblo is a great track to spectate at. I love driving at Pueblo!
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:21 AM   #6
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Hi Robbie, just trying to help get our numbers back up !
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:00 AM   #7
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$50-$80 a day
Que?

that is unheard of in most parts of the country. hell, Im paying 100 for a day next week to drive my SM on the newly built karting track that just went in by me
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:36 AM   #8
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Wonder of they even have flaggers? The money we spend goes towards track rental and flaggers.
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Wonder of they even have flaggers? The money we spend goes towards track rental and flaggers.
We are talking about small tracks in the country here guys....Not like any track day you have ever been too, probably much smaller run groups as well.

Typically at ASR, there are no corner workers besides the track owner and his helper...thats another reason its cheap, the events are put on by the track owner directly, there is no 'middleman' trying to get a cut.

A Day at Arroyo Seco in southern NM can be had for ~$50. (That includes transponders)...

Days at Sandia (in Albuquerque) are around 80...this is basically a private rental with no safety, just a flagman.

Instructors and Better Safety or not, its hard to justify driving twice as far to spend 6x as much money just to drive on a different track. I already get enough cheap track time to burn through tires, fuel and pads at a high rate.

I'm not calling NASA events expensive or anything of the sort, I realize what they offer...we just have killer deals closer to home.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:17 AM   #10
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A Day at Arroyo Seco in southern NM can be had for ~$50. (That includes transponders)...
No more stop watch ? Cool ! Maybe I'll come down for another superlap day. That's along haul from Taos though. I can get to Pueblo in 2 1/2-3 hours, ASR is about 6.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:27 AM   #11
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No more stop watch ? Cool ! Maybe I'll come down for another superlap day. That's along haul from Taos though. I can get to Pueblo in 2 1/2-3 hours, ASR is about 6.
Its the exact opposite for me...see my conundrum?

Next Super Lap is July 18th (Sat) ....Ignore the Schedules that say its on the 19th.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:34 AM   #12
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I would give a high recommendation to the NASA group. I run with NASA MidAtlantic section in student group HPDE3. This is a great organization that puts on fun events that are run very professionally and well structured.

I can't imagine going to an event with no flagger. Approaching a blind corner at track speed with no flaggers is as risky as driving like that on the street. Corner workers are one of THE top safety items on track.

Oh, and $250 for a track weekend is still dirt cheap ! How are you possibly having trouble filling that event ?
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:53 AM   #13
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Go post this at AWDPirates if you haven't yet.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:46 PM   #14
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I would give a high recommendation to the NASA group. I run with NASA MidAtlantic section in student group HPDE3. This is a great organization that puts on fun events that are run very professionally and well structured.

I can't imagine going to an event with no flagger. Approaching a blind corner at track speed with no flaggers is as risky as driving like that on the street. Corner workers are one of THE top safety items on track.

Oh, and $250 for a track weekend is still dirt cheap ! How are you possibly having trouble filling that event ?
The tracks we are speaking of don't have 'blind' corners for the most part.

We compensate for lack of flaggers by having very small run groups...fewer cars out on the track, spread further apart.

I'm have no idea why he is having trouble filling the event with CO locals, its a great deal. Its just not as attractive to the NM Drivers. (There are relatively few NM drivers to begin with anyway)
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:10 PM   #15
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Go post this at AWDPirates if you haven't yet.
Thanks, I tried and after logging in I'm getting a message that I don't have permission to access the threads.
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:13 PM   #16
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Oh, and $250 for a track weekend is still dirt cheap ! How are you possibly having trouble filling that event ?
I'm baffled by it, as our June event was a crossover with TX at Hallet, and not a lot of Colo drivers went out for it. I figured everybody would be jones-ing to get back on track. Our May event at PMP had the largest car count ever for RM region.

I guess the economy really does suck !!
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Do you mean insurance covering damage done to yourself or your vehicle on-track?

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Probably not. But since I am not directly involved, I could be wrong.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:56 PM   #18
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Probably not. But since I am not directly involved, I could be wrong.
That's why I asked. The response made it sound like it did, and that would be mis-leading to potential n00b participants.

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The NASA Insurance that is covered is for liability portion, which most if not all tracks require any organization to have when renting their facility.

$250 for a weekend is un-believeably cheap!

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Liability insurance means that if you run over some one, the insurance company provides a lawyer to keep you out of jail. It does not cover your medical bills, your car, etc. It does mean you do not have to pay for the guard rail you knock down.

Yes, this is a good price.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:04 PM   #21
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We got our registration numbers up and all things are a GO !! We've got 21 944spec cars, so I'll get to run with a large pack. Only one Subie in so far. I'll be towing with the wagon, and may take it out for some TT laps if I get my tires swapped out this week. Here's my rig (old pic before the race car got suspension)
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:48 AM   #22
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There are going to be at least two Subaru's there!
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:32 AM   #23
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Hey taosracer,

Glad to see you still have that silver WRX Wagon.

There is a RallyCross at the same track the same weekend. They have been averaging 70+ entries. The Mile High Nationals are also happening up the road in Denver. Thats the biggest Motorsports spectator event we have all year. 100,000+ spectators. On top of that there is a Vintage race at HPR the same time. The Pikes Peak Hill Climb starts the following Tuesday, so very, very busy week.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:52 PM   #24
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We'll miss your high quality photos. So the Rallycross is at Pueblo ? Cool

If I'm not too busy with students, I'll sneak away to spectate. We're also doing the oval at I-25 Saturday night with 944spec. Should be a fun weekend

BTW the wagon got a new engine this spring, as all the abuse I subject it to caused a rod bearing failure. Looks like you still have yours. Robbie, glad to hear your driving too !
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Have a good event.

I'm amazed you can tow 944 with your wagon. Especially at the altitude out there ! wow.
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