Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday October 20, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Brakes & Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Brakes, Steering & Suspension

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-28-2002, 05:40 PM   #1
Dolphin Overton
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1925
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: denver
Vehicle:
01 Allroad 6spd
13 Daytona 675R 99 Sprint

Question STI V6 spring vs. STI V5 spring

I want to get a spring with a higher rate than my V5's. I have the V5 struts also. My question is, will the rate of the V6 springs be too high for the V5 struts? I was under the impression that the V5 and V6 used the same struts. Anybody got any Ideas?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Dolphin Overton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2002, 07:29 PM   #2
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

The v5 is a pretty beefy strut besides being inverted- I would imagine it can handle the springs just fine . Question is, do you know where to get v6 springs ? I've been looking (halfheartedly I admit) without much success for them.


Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
http://www.subaruwrxparts.com
North Ursalia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2002, 08:17 PM   #3
DoctorNick
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 7022
Join Date: May 2001
Vehicle:
heh, DC ITCA are
my rides

Default

Brian:
U thought about asking some of our UK friends? (pm'ing)
-Neal
DoctorNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2002, 09:33 PM   #4
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

I could do that, I'd just rather not pay for shipping from the UK. Maybe I can beg and plead with a few contacts on the North American continent . You need to remove that "racoon" thing from your location . I get a chuckle everytime I see you post, see that, and think of that thread . Good thing Subachad saved those photos eh ?


Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
http://www.subaruwrxparts.com
North Ursalia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 01:26 AM   #5
Dolphin Overton
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1925
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: denver
Vehicle:
01 Allroad 6spd
13 Daytona 675R 99 Sprint

Default

I know some people haev had bad dealings with ISR, but they carry them. Or at least they have them on their web site. Me likey more spring rate.

I want my car to ride harsh... wierd automotive S&M thing I guess. A little less body roll is good too.

edit: just checked the site again. $380

man I need a real job.
Dolphin Overton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 02:54 AM   #6
synapse79
Guest
 
Member#: 0
Default

i was thinking about a set of V6 springs from ISR, but i havent called them either..

i've also been tossing around the idea of H&R or MRT springs.. do you guys know if one is better or worse?

I'm not sure if i want my car to ride really hard or not, been there done that before, sometimes its cool, sometimes its not..

im planning on ordering a set of either the MRT or H&R springs very soon.. so any last minute input would be great..

thanks
jason
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 07:49 AM   #7
Scottie
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2080
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: CT
Vehicle:
06 Impreza Wagon
Red

Default

Some of my fellow old timers may recall, both the STi web site in Japan and the iSR web site use to have tables listing the spring rates and damping rates for each of the different Version's springs and struts (Ver 3 thru Ver 6). If my memory serves me correctly, the spring rates and damping rates for the Ver 5 and Ver 6 were indeed different. I believe this whole idea that the Ver 5 and Ver 6 struts are the same is a misinterpretation of something Simon Lines of Prodrive once posted here on the i-Club.
Scottie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 08:42 AM   #8
GooseMan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2462
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Los Angeles/Montreal
Vehicle:
2012 Volvo S60 T5
2005 Triumph Sprint ST

Default

I *think* I have the V6 springs on my car. I got them at Subaru Lachute.

Only thing is, I'm not sure which Ver. they are! When I aksed them if they had V5 springs in stock, they said, "yeah, we have either V5 or V6". They werent sure. So all I know is that theyre black, and pretty stiff. I'm running them with KYB AGX's.

GooseMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 10:24 AM   #9
slater
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5848
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: burlington, vermont
Vehicle:
1992 vw corrado vr6
silver w/ schrick/quaife

Default

is there any other place (other than iSR) to get the sti ver6 springs?

gooseman, do you have any pics of your car with that suspension in?

thanks!

peter
slater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 10:38 AM   #10
GooseMan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2462
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Los Angeles/Montreal
Vehicle:
2012 Volvo S60 T5
2005 Triumph Sprint ST

Default

No pics yet. I cant tell you that the back of the car looks nicely lowered. The tops of the rear tires are about 1/2" away from the wheel well. For some reason, the front looks jacked up a bit...theres maybe 1"-1.5" of gap in the front. ODD...yes..but it handles NICE!
GooseMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 10:44 AM   #11
Simon Lines
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1540
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Prodrive USA
Vehicle:
92 JDM GC8 WRX
2004 2.5 twin scroll 6MT

Default

Hi Guys

Within manufacturing tolerances the V5 and V6 struts are virtually identical, however, there are around half a dozen different part numbers for the two versions, all with subtly different rate’s. But if you just want a boneshaker it won’t make the slightest difference to you.

The front springs are all pretty close too.

If you are insistent on a bone-jarring ride (opposed to a well handling car) I would suggest getting a kit from Japan, they tend to supply very stiff rates.

If you want it to handle I would suggest the P1 spring kit (combined with either V5 or V6 struts)

Cheers

Simon
Simon Lines is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 10:45 AM   #12
slater
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5848
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: burlington, vermont
Vehicle:
1992 vw corrado vr6
silver w/ schrick/quaife

Default

simon - what would you prescribe for my GC8 for a 'well-handling' suspension? roads here at comparable to british b-roads.

gooseman - i have AGXs (just installed) with 5zigen springs, and the car is too low, which is hindering performance, IMO (lowered about 2").

the sti ver6 springs are supposed to lower the car 30mm, which is 1.2". that's dandy . . . but, the spring rates at 286/274 (according to ravensblade, IIRC), which is fine for me, but i'm not sure if that's too stiff for the AGXs or not. i have no problems running the AGXs at full stiff if i need to.

peter
slater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 11:01 AM   #13
Simon Lines
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1540
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Prodrive USA
Vehicle:
92 JDM GC8 WRX
2004 2.5 twin scroll 6MT

Default

Personally I run a J spec ’92 WRX import, chassis spec is: -

P1 spring kit
V6 dampers
Whitline ALK
Bumpsteer removed
All Urethane bushes
No rear subframe bushes (solid mounted)
Unique alignment settings - Still being optimised
Wheel and tyre size - Still being optimised

Compare and contrast with our P1

P1 spring kit
V6 dampers
Prodrive alignment settings
Optimised for 7.5x18 with 225/35/18 PZero

My car has more NVH than a P1 but much better turn in and transient response, braking stability is much better too (no ABS). Having over 300bhp DIN @ the flywheel helps too

Cheers

Simon
Simon Lines is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 11:07 AM   #14
slater
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5848
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: burlington, vermont
Vehicle:
1992 vw corrado vr6
silver w/ schrick/quaife

Default

i bet it does!

i would love to be able to source P1 springs and ver6 struts here in the US, but it appears to be impossible.

i run the whiteline ALK as well.

i was curious as to what the 'prodrive alignment settings' are for the P1 model? or are these somewhat confidential?

thanks!

peter
slater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 11:15 AM   #15
Simon Lines
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1540
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Prodrive USA
Vehicle:
92 JDM GC8 WRX
2004 2.5 twin scroll 6MT

Default

Call The Tire Rack( www.tirerack.com ), they have a number of spring kits on order and if there is no stock at present they will have some within a few weeks.

Try Mike at SPD ( www.spdusa.com ) for the struts (and a general chat - he's a cool dude)

The ALK is a good kit, i've done a couple of variations to play with.

The alignment is on the ScoobyNet FAQ

Cheers

Simon
Simon Lines is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 11:25 AM   #16
slater
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5848
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: burlington, vermont
Vehicle:
1992 vw corrado vr6
silver w/ schrick/quaife

Default

simon, thanks . . . although i didn't think mike @ SPD was still in business. i'll give him a call, regardless!



peter
slater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2002, 04:23 PM   #17
Dolphin Overton
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1925
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: denver
Vehicle:
01 Allroad 6spd
13 Daytona 675R 99 Sprint

Default

I already have the V5 spring and strut. It is a great set up, but I think just a bit more spring rate would be nice. The P1 springs are almost identical rates to the V5 it seems. The P1 being a bit softer in the front. Just for reference here is a list of spring rates.

http://www.northursalia.com/m...ng/spring.html
Dolphin Overton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
STi V6 swap vs. STi V7 swap moss Subaru Conversions 47 01-12-2014 03:56 PM
Sti V7 Springs vs Sti sport springs for '02 Vlad Brakes, Steering & Suspension 10 02-02-2006 10:12 AM
STi V6 Struts vs Stock 03 JayD707 Brakes, Steering & Suspension 5 03-08-2004 01:11 AM
STi RA springs vs STi pink springs dofo Brakes, Steering & Suspension 7 08-13-2003 01:56 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.