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Old 07-03-2009, 07:43 AM   #1
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Default RX-7 Concept May Appear at Tokyo Motor Show

This year’s Tokyo Motor Show is the perfect opportunity for Mazda to introduce a RX-7 concept so there’s a possibility we may see it appear in October. The RX-7 will likely showcase Mazda’s new design philosophy which goes once step beyond the previous ”Nagare” concepts



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The new RX-7 is said to relieve the RX-8 of its rotary flag-bearing duties and become Mazda’s flagship rotary sports car featuring a new design philosophy which we’re told is “one step beyond Nagare”. It has also been previously reported that the new RX-7 (or RX-9 according to Holiday Auto) would go on sale in the first half of 2012, which would mean the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show (TMS) would be the obvious place for its debut. This year’s TMS is an opportunity for Mazda to cash in on RX-7 fever as rotary enthusiasts start to wonder what’s going to happen once the RX-8 ends its production cycle. Mazda is expected to show its commitment to the rotary in October and what better way to do it than with a new RX-7 concept. Although it would be great to see a RX-7 successor revealed, Best Car conclude that there’s a “55% chance” that we could see a new concept break cover in Tokyo… so in other words, don’t hold your breath!
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:23 PM   #2
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<<<<Please look like the Furai>>>>

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Old 07-03-2009, 05:25 PM   #3
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Please have a turbo!
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:53 PM   #4
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Please be the Furai.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:53 PM   #5
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Please make that two turbos
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #6
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Man the rx7 rumor has been running rampant for years. I guess after all the problems with the original car they are skeptical to bring that bad boy back. I hope they do (tt please).
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:59 PM   #7
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Put a reliable/good mpg/high(er) torque engine in the car and I would take it seriously.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:05 PM   #8
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Put a piston engine in it and I'd potentially cross-shop it with the Toybaru (or the Supra if it is ever out).
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:35 PM   #9
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:52 PM   #10
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Put a reliable/good mpg/high(er) torque engine in the car and I would take it seriously.
Just get a G8, Camaro, or Mustang.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:21 PM   #11
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I think their "smile" has just gone bigger with this concept than with the Mazda3
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:27 PM   #12
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How much will the rotary improve in MPG once it receives direct injection? It will have to be a much bigger jump than the normal ~5% that you see in most piston engines, since sooner or later all engines will come with DI. It will never be a frugal engine, but if DI does wonders, and if Mazda only uses in light weight sports models, then maybe it will still be around in 10 years.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:43 PM   #13
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mazda needs to start partnering up with chevron to make commercials

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Concept came first
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:22 AM   #15
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DI, larger displacement which they are doing and they need to put it in a very light car, Miata light. If they can hit 2,500 lbs with a 16x engine cranking 275+ hp they will get the speed and MPG they need to be a contender again.

It still won't have torque but it will be very fun to drive.
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DI, larger displacement which they are doing and they need to put it in a very light car, Miata light. If they can hit 2,500 lbs with a 16x engine cranking 275+ hp they will get the speed and MPG they need to be a contender again.

It still won't have torque but it will be very fun to drive.
Exactly. The RX-8 is a great car hampered only by ridiculously low gas mileage. I love the idea of practical sports car, and I'm fine with torque-less high revving engine in a smallish car. But I can't get past the 22MPG highway rating, and I suspect that I'm not the only one drawn to it by its fun and practicality, and then turned off by that number. It's just a big glaring hole in the "sensible fun" formula. I think the only proper place for a rotary engine is an ultra light 2 seater.
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DI, larger displacement which they are doing and they need to put it in a very light car, Miata light. If they can hit 2,500 lbs with a 16x engine cranking 275+ hp they will get the speed and MPG they need to be a contender again.

It still won't have torque but it will be very fun to drive.
2,500 lbs might be a bit ambitious given that my RX-7 R1 weighs 2,700 lbs. Mazda was so desperate to save weight on the FD's that they had drilled holes into the sway bar mounts (an example of how far they went to save weight on this car). With modern safety and luxury demands as well as additional cost of the use of exotic materials, I would expect any 7 successor to weigh more.

A 16x with forced induction would make even a 3,000 lb RX-car very competitive in terms of power to weight.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:13 PM   #18
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This rendering looks awesome, but I have little hope that it will in fact look like this. These Japanese car mags usually take a lot of liberty when it comes to guessing what next-gen cars will look like.
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2,500 lbs might be a bit ambitious given that my RX-7 R1 weighs 2,700 lbs. Mazda was so desperate to save weight on the FD's that they had drilled holes into the sway bar mounts (an example of how far they went to save weight on this car). With modern safety and luxury demands as well as additional cost of the use of exotic materials, I would expect any 7 successor to weigh more.

A 16x with forced induction would make even a 3,000 lb RX-car very competitive in terms of power to weight.
2500lbs is likely too ambitious, but let's not forget that the current RX-8 is just a little over 3000lbs. If they stick with a small two seater configuration, sub 3000lbs should be achievable.

But even then, if they shoot for big power with turbo, MPG will be horrible.
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You take the miata, widen the body. slap on a rotory with turbo and a hardtop. vola... the next RX-7
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Miata has too short wheelbase and can be handful with more power. You want a bigger platform.
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Miata has too short wheelbase and can be handful with more power. You want a bigger platform.
Take a guess at which chassis they use for the Miata........


I'll wait.....
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Miata chassis?
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The NC Miata uses a shortened RX-8 chassis. Hence, Mazda already has a "bigger" platform to use for the RX-7.
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The NC Miata uses a shortened RX-8 chassis. Hence, Mazda already has a "bigger" platform to use for the RX-7.
thats why they need / will have a bigger / better / lighter / stiffer chassis

i have confidence in mazda's handling department to pull this off

even if they **** up the engine part, i can always swap a LS7 in it, so i m not worried
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