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View Poll Results: 08 Sedan Owners - Interested in what size sub?
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10 Inch 44 55.70%
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default 08 Sedan Owners - Perfect Fit™ Enclosure Idea's & Feedback Wanted!

Hey all - when the 08's first came out there wasn't much interest in the cars to begin with but then the hatch seemed to take off. Well as you hopefully know we finally got to making an enclosure for the new hatch and it's become pretty popular.

Here's the feedback thread we started for that - 08 Hatch Feedback Thread

At the same time we didn't see many of the sedan's around so going through the trouble of building an enclosure for them didn't seem like it would be worth it. Well we have had a few emails requesting one so we thought we better revisit the idea and see what you guys thought.

So basically we're looking at getting some feedback from you 08 - 09 Sedan owners on what you'd like to see in an enclosure. If there's enough interest we'll source a sedan and get to working on a prototype.

Like the rest of our enclosures we have to shoot for the most popular and practical designs and ideas. Most people don't need an enclosure for 2 - 12's or 15's, most want to keep overall size and weight down, the spare must be accessible and most people aren't interested in running a super massive $400 + sub. So I guess with some of the basics in mind what are your thoughts?
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Tis a shame the forester never really took off here.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:28 PM   #3
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I just want to say that I believe you could have a large 05+ Legacy market. I'm sure if you posted over at www.legacygt.com, you would have tons of interest.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:46 PM   #4
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Personally, I'm looking for a 10" enclosure. But I think a 10" and 12" enclosure would be good to work off of, since those appeared to be the popular designs for 02-07 models. Would it be tough to create a 12" enclosure once you've designed a 10" and vice/versa?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:21 AM   #5
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I'm currently running a 10" sub in a generic box - which is not really configured for my '08 sedan.

I'm in agreement with your assumptions on space / weight / spare tire access

I would be looking at a 10" enclosure - or if 12" was the only availability, then could be a good reason to updgrade.

Will be interesting to see what you come up with - good luck
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:12 AM   #6
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Since I imagine the enclosure will be closer in design to the 02-07 sedan enclosures than the 08+ hatchback, what has the mounting depth of those enclosures been? I'm picking up a 10" JL Audio W3 sub, with a top mount depth of 5 7/8". Should I be looking at something more shallow?
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:32 PM   #7
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I'd be interested in one. The one you made for the hatch looks awesome.

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Old 07-07-2009, 04:55 PM   #8
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Tis a shame the forester never really took off here.
Yes, it is - we really like the Forester but unfortunately there just aren't many out there.

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I just want to say that I believe you could have a large 05+ Legacy market. I'm sure if you posted over at www.legacygt.com, you would have tons of interest.
It's been a little while but we had a customer of ours that bought an 07 Sedan for his wife - was suppose to drop it off since they didn't drive it a lot. We just haven't been able to connect as we've both been busy.

It takes a little over a week usually to get a prototype together so ideally we need the car for that long. If you know of somebody or yourself that may be interested and can live without their ride for a few hit us up.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:15 PM   #9
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Interested in a 12" enclosure...running my DIYMA in the car right now and there's not much room left
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:24 PM   #10
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I'm interested. I don't really care what size sub because I just want more bass I'd go with whatever size is popular.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:31 PM   #11
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Yes, it is - we really like the Forester but unfortunately there just aren't many out there.



It's been a little while but we had a customer of ours that bought an 07 Sedan for his wife - was suppose to drop it off since they didn't drive it a lot. We just haven't been able to connect as we've both been busy.

It takes a little over a week usually to get a prototype together so ideally we need the car for that long. If you know of somebody or yourself that may be interested and can live without their ride for a few hit us up.
I'm sure someone local over at legacygt.com would be more than willing to help you out. They are always looking for audio products.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:38 PM   #12
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Talking Sedan sub enclosures

I'd be interested in an enclosure for the Sedan, in 10" or 12" size... I'd really like to see an enclosure for both the Driver and Passenger side of the Trunk . But I guess I could deal with just one.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:54 PM   #13
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Personally, I'm looking for a 10" enclosure. But I think a 10" and 12" enclosure would be good to work off of, since those appeared to be the popular designs for 02-07 models. Would it be tough to create a 12" enclosure once you've designed a 10" and vice/versa?

It's usually easier to build a 12 first, then down size to make the 10 inch version. If we do it this way we can get the 10 inch enclosure started and a lot done without actually having the vehicle here as we're building it based off the back cavity of the 12.

So this is thought on new enclosure models - we try to fit a 12 when possible, the extra cost of the subwoofer to upgrade to a 12 over a 10 is very minimal, usually in the $20 - $50 area. Today's 12's (from most companies) can play that tight kick drum bass 10's have always been known for but at the same time has the ability to play louder (move more air over a 10) and play lower than a 10. The extra airspace is also very minimal as most 12's work well in a cubic foot to one and a quarter cubes.

Back in the day there use to be more of a sound difference between subs but in my opinion that isn't so much the case today.

When looking at just running one subwoofer most guys shoot for a 12, always nice to have a little extra just in case which would make sense as we sell a lot more 12 inch enclosures compared to 10's in our Subaru lineup.

The new 08 Hatch was so tight in space that fitting a 12 would have just taken up too much room and just wouldn't have looked right. Plus the open hatch design (no rear deck) allows for a lot more bass to be heard up front compared to the sedans.


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Since I imagine the enclosure will be closer in design to the 02-07 sedan enclosures than the 08+ hatchback, what has the mounting depth of those enclosures been? I'm picking up a 10" JL Audio W3 sub, with a top mount depth of 5 7/8". Should I be looking at something more shallow?
The mounting depth is never exact as the back of the enclosures are always contoured, the magnet's sides actually hit the back walls before the bottom of it does. Because of this both the overall depth along with the magnet's diameter has to be considered to determine proper fitment.

JL Audio makes great subs in all their lines and are usually on the larger size as far as magnet and basket structure go. They are also very popular so we try to get most of their lines to fit within our enclosures.

With the SH10 (08 Hatch) being the only exception all of our Subaru models will fit up to JL's W6 line - W0,W1,W3,W6 all fit and work well in our enclosures. The SH10 will fit upto a W3 and a W6 can be made to fit with a custom spacer ring. Subs like the W7 and other massive subwoofers won't work.

Like previous models we'd like to be able to fit up to a W6 sized sub in this enclosure if possible.

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Old 07-07-2009, 05:59 PM   #14
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+1 on the interest.
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Nice! I think my mounting depth on the DIYMA12 is around 6.3"
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Nice! I think my mounting depth on the DIYMA12 is around 6.3"
That's not too bad at all for a 12 - JL's 12W6 measures 7.6 inches deep with a magnet diameter of 6.65 inches.
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So do you imagine a 12" fitting ok in our sedans? If you prefer on making a 12" and know it will fit, I'll pick up a 12"--but if you'll def. make both, I may just get a 10"
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:19 PM   #18
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^^^ To be honest with ya I'm not sure as we really haven't had a chance to check out the available space in the sedans yet. We haven't seen one in our shop, we had a quick look at a subie meet one time but it's been a little while now.

I'm guessing there's similar room like the previous sedans so a 12 is very much possible. Unless there's some nice little cubby that would tuck a 10 completely out of the way I'd say a 12 is doable.
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+1 on having one built for the sedans, also do you have any plans on making a hidden amp rack ?
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:35 PM   #20
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+1 for interest and for a hidden amp rack. Ideally I would like to have the sub work around the spare tire well (and keep the spare tire) but if that's not possible either the passenger and driver side of the trunk for a 10 or 12"
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:47 PM   #21
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+1 on having one built for the sedans, also do you have any plans on making a hidden amp rack ?
We go back and forth on the amp racks...I like em and I know some of you guys do as well but it's hard to make a product work for so many amps as space is always a huge issue.

With our last amp rack space was limited but more than that we ran into major manufacturing troubles as every shop would quit producing them for us after a few orders or they'd rasie their prices dramatically

The hatch has no room for something like this, I guessing the 08 sedan does but again we'll be battling all those same issues over again. I like em but it's hard to get excited about it when we run into such troubles over and over again.
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Just something I did. You can run (1) 12" something like this. You can mount the amp where the battery is located, next to the sub. I still had alot of trunk space left.

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any possibility of making a spare tire enclosure for the hatch, ie removing the spare completly?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:48 AM   #24
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I used to run two 10s in the back of my Eclipse in custom enclosures, and my theory on it was as long as it doesn't kill functionality...

But you guys seem to have that in mind, something that fits nice in the corner and (besides taking up a little space) doesn't interfere with anything in the trunk...
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MY wife would want one for her car if 1) it looked really nice, and 2 it did not take up much space.
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