anyone do the cruise control surging recall?

Flowmastered87GL · 07-09-2009, 05:14 PM

A friend who works as a subaru tech told me there was a voluntary recall that likely included my 05 sport.

Symptom is surging (speeding up, slowing down) while going downhill with the cruise control on. I was told it was covered under the emissions warranty.

I have 52k, my "normal" service dealer said my VIN did not come up as it being required... well ya its VOLUNTARY right??

They said they can do it, if it shows up as needing it, its free, if not its $50, and it may not even fix the problem.

Uhhhh no, I think I will drive the hour + to have my friend reflash the ECU with the new programming....

my normal dealer just lost me as a customer for the 60K service. Going to www.fixmysuby.com instead

So, has anyone else heard about this recall? Or had it done??

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kev m · 07-14-2009, 07:42 AM

Recalls don't have symptoms, they have ranges of model #s on which they are all performed as a precaution.

Sounds to me like they have a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) about a potential problem (i.e. a pattern they've seen enough to identify, but not something that is considered safety related so they don't automatically perform the repair).

TSBs may or may not be covered by the OEM since they are not mandatory.

I haven't heard of this TSB, nor would I worry about it, if I didn't have the symptoms.

Kev

Flowmastered87GL · 07-14-2009, 07:47 PM

I have a tech coming out for subaru school and he is bringing the reflash kit with him to see if it fixes it.

Just gonna cost me a case of beer

kev m · 07-15-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flowmastered87GL

I have a tech coming out for subaru school and he is bringing the reflash kit with him to see if it fixes it.

Just gonna cost me a case of beer

So does that mean you are having the symptoms?

I don't use the cruise enough to notice even if I was...

Flowmastered87GL · 07-15-2009, 06:18 PM

yes I am having the symptoms. going downhill with the cruise on it feels like the car lets off the gas totally, then puts it back on, then off, on...... rather than just easing off a little more and keeping it that way.

kev m · 07-16-2009, 08:18 AM

Sorry if I'm confused, but if you had the symptoms, then the dealer shoulda done it for free anyway no?

blackfang · 07-17-2009, 12:55 PM

There are NO recalls for the 2005 Baja pertaining to that. Just one for a Vehicle Emissions control sticker.

There is NO recall at all for the cruise control on any 03-06 Baja.

steven765 · 07-17-2009, 04:27 PM

hrmph it sounds like subaru is squeezing all the dealerships, cause VA, NY and now NH all about the same time started asking for the 50$ fee if they don't find anything wrong and you bring it in to be looked at.

Or just general greed.

blackfang · 07-17-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven765

hrmph it sounds like subaru is squeezing all the dealerships, cause VA, NY and now NH all about the same time started asking for the 50$ fee if they don't find anything wrong and you bring it in to be looked at.

Or just general greed.

Not even close.

Every place I have worked at whether it be a dealership or independent shop always has a diagnostic fee to look at your car. It is up to that particular shop. That fee pays the technician for his time and materials to look at your car. That has nothing to do with the manufacturer, infact they have no say in it. That is a standard practice to ensure a technician gets paid to look at your car. I have worked at 4 private shops and 2 dealerships and it was the same.

Now, some places will not charge you if they can't find anything wrong. In most cases I don't charge you if we can't duplicate the problem, but that is on a case by case basis depending on what kind of diagnosis we are looking at and you will be told of this upfront before you sign.

Greed? Do you work for free? That is how a technician gets paid, by the job. If he does no work, he gets no pay. I know I don't work for free. I also know when I call the A/C repairman to my house to look at my ac, I expect to be billed and charged for his services.

BajaGuy68 · 07-19-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfang

Not even close.

Every place I have worked at whether it be a dealership or independent shop always has a diagnostic fee to look at your car. It is up to that particular shop. That fee pays the technician for his time and materials to look at your car. That has nothing to do with the manufacturer, infact they have no say in it. That is a standard practice to ensure a technician gets paid to look at your car. I have worked at 4 private shops and 2 dealerships and it was the same.

Now, some places will not charge you if they can't find anything wrong. In most cases I don't charge you if we can't duplicate the problem, but that is on a case by case basis depending on what kind of diagnosis we are looking at and you will be told of this upfront before you sign.

Greed? Do you work for free? That is how a technician gets paid, by the job. If he does no work, he gets no pay. I know I don't work for free. I also know when I call the A/C repairman to my house to look at my ac, I expect to be billed and charged for his services.

Well Said!

adrenalinejunkie · 09-24-2009, 04:54 PM

(04 STI) I have had problems with my cruise control. Sometimes shuts off randomly, and has hard uphill/downhill transitions. Could I have the same problem?

07-09-2009, 05:14 PM	#1
Flowmastered87GL WCSS Drunk Moderator Member#: 8914 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Portland Oregon Vehicle: 2005 Baja Sport Regal Blue Pearl	anyone do the cruise control surging recall? A friend who works as a subaru tech told me there was a voluntary recall that likely included my 05 sport. Symptom is surging (speeding up, slowing down) while going downhill with the cruise control on. I was told it was covered under the emissions warranty. I have 52k, my "normal" service dealer said my VIN did not come up as it being required... well ya its VOLUNTARY right?? They said they can do it, if it shows up as needing it, its free, if not its $50, and it may not even fix the problem. Uhhhh no, I think I will drive the hour + to have my friend reflash the ECU with the new programming.... my normal dealer just lost me as a customer for the 60K service. Going to www.fixmysuby.com instead So, has anyone else heard about this recall? Or had it done?? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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07-14-2009, 07:42 AM	#2
kev m Scooby Specialist Member#: 128582 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastern, PA Vehicle: 2010 Impreza 2.5 Wgn 2011 Nissan Juke	Recalls don't have symptoms, they have ranges of model #s on which they are all performed as a precaution. Sounds to me like they have a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) about a potential problem (i.e. a pattern they've seen enough to identify, but not something that is considered safety related so they don't automatically perform the repair). TSBs may or may not be covered by the OEM since they are not mandatory. I haven't heard of this TSB, nor would I worry about it, if I didn't have the symptoms. Kev

07-14-2009, 07:47 PM	#3
Flowmastered87GL WCSS Drunk Moderator Member#: 8914 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Portland Oregon Vehicle: 2005 Baja Sport Regal Blue Pearl	I have a tech coming out for subaru school and he is bringing the reflash kit with him to see if it fixes it. Just gonna cost me a case of beer

07-15-2009, 06:18 PM	#5
Flowmastered87GL WCSS Drunk Moderator Member#: 8914 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Portland Oregon Vehicle: 2005 Baja Sport Regal Blue Pearl	yes I am having the symptoms. going downhill with the cruise on it feels like the car lets off the gas totally, then puts it back on, then off, on...... rather than just easing off a little more and keeping it that way.

07-16-2009, 08:18 AM	#6
kev m Scooby Specialist Member#: 128582 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eastern, PA Vehicle: 2010 Impreza 2.5 Wgn 2011 Nissan Juke	Sorry if I'm confused, but if you had the symptoms, then the dealer shoulda done it for free anyway no?

07-17-2009, 12:55 PM	#7
blackfang Scooby Specialist Member#: 131347 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Richmond Va Vehicle: 2007 Legacy 2.5i SE 98 Z/28, VN 900 custom	There are NO recalls for the 2005 Baja pertaining to that. Just one for a Vehicle Emissions control sticker. There is NO recall at all for the cruise control on any 03-06 Baja.

07-17-2009, 04:27 PM	#8
steven765 Scooby Specialist Member#: 105920 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Vehicle: 2006 Baja 5 Speed	hrmph it sounds like subaru is squeezing all the dealerships, cause VA, NY and now NH all about the same time started asking for the 50$ fee if they don't find anything wrong and you bring it in to be looked at. Or just general greed.

09-24-2009, 04:54 PM	#11
adrenalinejunkie Scooby Newbie Member#: 204728 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NOVA Vehicle: 2004 STI Blue	(04 STI) I have had problems with my cruise control. Sometimes shuts off randomly, and has hard uphill/downhill transitions. Could I have the same problem?