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Old 07-11-2009, 02:15 AM   #1
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Hey everyone. Please allow me to begin by stating that this is the first time I've ever posted in this section, so please be kind if I'm asking questions that really have obvious answers.

Anyway... I'm about to fit some new shoes on my WRX wagon. I bought some used five spoke 17X7 (I think 55 offset) SPT wheels from another member on here. They were a little rough, so I refinished them in a General Motors color called "competition gray" (the color found on the wheels of some C5 Corvette ZO6s), and I'm pretty excited about finally buying some tires and putting them to use.

Circumstance has dictated what brand of tire I will buy: Hankook. My brother recently began managing a tire shop, and even though I've bought ALL of my tires from Tirerack over the past 10 years, I just feel bad not sending my brother my patronage. (Sorry, Luke. ) Hancook is really the only performance brand he sells (he specializes mainly in commercial truck tires), so I'm stuck between three models:

Ventus V12 Evo (These did great in the recent C&D comparison)
Ventus R-S2
Ventus R-S3

I want a performance tire that does well in the wet, and can play well in an autcross/ timed competition event. I do plan on driving daily on these tires, but I am not concerned about traction in snowy weather in any form or fashion. (I'm a school teacher in Atlanta, so even if it does snow I don't work.) All this being said, is there any one tire from the above list that sounds like it would best meet my needs?

I am also curious about what width I should buy. I think Subaru originally equipped these wheels with 215/45 sized tires. Should I bump it up to a 225 width? My suspension is completely stock, but I would like to install Mach V or Prodrive springs and some sways within the next 6 months. I am aware that 225 would result in a larger diameter tire, and am left wondering if the increased grip would be worth the brunt on acceleration or if rubbing may become an issue once I begin modifying the suspension. (It may also be worth noting that if I stick with 215/45, the Ventus R-S3s are no longer an option.)

Wow. That was a lot of text.... TMI, really, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any important info.

Regardless... If you've read this far, thanks. I really appreciate any advice.
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:23 AM   #2
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All things being equal, you'll get less sidewall squirm on those 17x7s if you stick with 215-45. The slightly smaller overall diameter (vs. stock) won't hurt, either.

My vote's for the V12 Evo.
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:38 AM   #3
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I have no experience with Hancook, but I'm in for pictures of the 'competition gray' wheels!
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:51 PM   #4
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The R-S3 and and V-12 Evo are so new I haven't seen much feedback from actual users here. I haven't tried them and rely on what I've read. The R-S2 is an old standby Extreme Summer Performance tire and is eclipsed by more recent tires. R-S2 is still a decent tire comparable to the Kumho Ecsta MX.

The R-S3 and V-12 are from different classes of tires. Go for the R-S3 if dry performance or autoX is your priority, go for the V-12 Evo if you want want a more even balance between wet and dry traction and don't mind the dry performance loss.

Of course, I'm expecting your brother will give you a good deal because the competition in performance and price is very competitive for both the R-S3 and V-12 Evo.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:58 PM   #5
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All things being equal, you'll get less sidewall squirm on those 17x7s if you stick with 215-45. The slightly smaller overall diameter (vs. stock) won't hurt, either.

My vote's for the V12 Evo.
Advice taken and appreciated. At least with this tire I know I'm getting something decent, and it would be nice to know that any effect on straight line acceleration will probably be negligible.

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I have no experience with Hancook, but I'm in for pictures of the 'competition gray' wheels!
No problem! The pics are a little crappy, but you get the idea. They aren't perfect, but I was happy with the outcome- especially considering that my previous work with spray guns has ended in disaster. No runs, and evenly glossy. If you get really close, you can see some sanding marks here and there, as well as a little old curb rash. I'll prep a little more tediously next time, but I'd still give the final product an A-.

I did two coats of GM competition gray (color code WA9243) purchased from Dupont, and three coats of Dupont clear. Once I get them on the car, I'll take some more pics, and possibly post in the "painted stockers" thread. I'm thinking these will look nice on a WRB wagon.



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Old 07-11-2009, 04:05 PM   #6
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The R-S3 and and V-12 Evo are so new I haven't seen much feedback from actual users here. I haven't tried them and rely on what I've read. The R-S2 is an old standby Extreme Summer Performance tire and is eclipsed by more recent tires. R-S2 is still a decent tire comparable to the Kumho Ecsta MX.

The R-S3 and V-12 are from different classes of tires. Go for the R-S3 if dry performance or autoX is your priority, go for the V-12 Evo if you want want a more even balance between wet and dry traction and don't mind the dry performance loss.

Of course, I'm expecting your brother will give you a good deal because the competition in performance and price is very competitive for both the R-S3 and V-12 Evo.
Thanks!

The V-12 is what I'm really leaning toward. I do realize it will give up a little bit in terms of performance, but I'm really wanting something that is very streetable, reasonably quiet, and won't fall on it's face at an autocross. Wet traction is especially important to me, as some of the main roads here in Atlanta are very poorly drained.

Honestly, when I hit an autocross course in this car, it will be just to have a good time. The upgraded turbo will knock me into some class where I'd have to put a fortune into my suspension in order to be really competitive, and I just don't have the time or the money. That being the case, The V-12 does seem like a solid compromise. My brother is going to call me on Monday with the prices, so I guess that will have at least some bearing on my final decision. These are all well within my budget range, though.
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:58 PM   #7
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Advice taken and appreciated. At least with this tire I know I'm getting something decent, and it would be nice to know that any effect on straight line acceleration will probably be negligible.



No problem! The pics are a little crappy, but you get the idea. They aren't perfect, but I was happy with the outcome- especially considering that my previous work with spray guns has ended in disaster. No runs, and evenly glossy. If you get really close, you can see some sanding marks here and there, as well as a little old curb rash. I'll prep a little more tediously next time, but I'd still give the final product an A-.

I did two coats of GM competition gray (color code WA9243) purchased from Dupont, and three coats of Dupont clear. Once I get them on the car, I'll take some more pics, and possibly post in the "painted stockers" thread. I'm thinking these will look nice on a WRB wagon.



Those came out looking really nice. Looks like an Anthracite.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:03 PM   #8
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Nice color choice.
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