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Old 07-16-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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Default How hard is it really to do a clutch?

I have done quite a few projects on my car... rear diff, tbe, turbo, etc. But am trying to gauge if I really want to replace the clutch myself.

For those of you that have done it, how hard is it really?
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:53 AM   #2
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Kent will help
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:57 AM   #3
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Its easy with the right tools.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:08 AM   #4
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if you know what you are doing and have the correct tools its a straight forward job.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:18 AM   #5
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Ok, I believe I have all of the "right" tools, besides the tranny jack. I only have a normal jack.

I have airtools, and also all of the other standard tools that have needed to be used to work on my car
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:43 AM   #6
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If you don't have a lift I would suggest just moving the engine forward.

You will need either a cherry picker type thing or two comalongs and a garage. Someone told me you could do it by just jacking the engine up from underneath but that was a god damn lie.

Took me 9 hours, alone. You'll prob need a back up vehicle. Oh and resurface the flywheel for 30$ at transmission exchange.
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:53 PM   #7
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Pizza + Drinks and you might be able to lure a few subaphiles into helping you . This is my plan when my clutch starts slipping (80k and still going strong).
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:58 PM   #8
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Very funny, Steve.


It depends on if you employ the assistance of people who know what they're doing or not. There is a DIY on here that had some helpful pictures, but the word-for-word is full of crap. You will definitely need the air tools, and plenty of time (min 8 hours). Also, you will want PB Blaster/liquid wrench, and will need some more tranny fluid. It's also a good time to replace crossmember bushings, DP gaskets, tranny mounts, pitch stopper, braided brake line, and anything like that.

And you WILL need a transmission jack. You can borrow/rent one from most auto product shops (Vato Zone, Chucker, etc.) for fairly cheap. If there is ANY POSSIBLE way to get access to a lift, it makes worlds of difference, and I would recommend it +123ventybillion times over again.


With the right tools, some dedication, and a bit of mechanical aptitude, you can save yourself $500. The labor isn't overly HARD, just takes time to do it right.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:20 PM   #9
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Ill come do it in a week in a half for 200. Its fairly easy to do and straight forward. A little more challengine to do on the floor but still simple enough.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:11 PM   #10
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Noah says that, with a lift, proper air tools, and plenty of experience, he can do one in four hours. That's how easy it is.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:53 AM   #11
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If you don't have a lift I would suggest just moving the engine forward.

You will need either a cherry picker type thing or two comalongs and a garage. Someone told me you could do it by just jacking the engine up from underneath but that was a god damn lie.

Took me 9 hours, alone. You'll prob need a back up vehicle. Oh and resurface the flywheel for 30$ at transmission exchange.
I agree with this guy. I pull the engine out to change mine because i don't have a lift.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:21 AM   #12
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:31 AM   #13
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I choose stoner for 200 please. . Or just take it to solid. I do all the work on my car and clutches are 1 I think is worth the 60 an hour. . I paid the guy 40 an hour 4 years ago after doing a few of my own (in a shop with every tool known to man, it took me 5 hours) well worth the money to pay someone.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:44 AM   #14
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I agree with this guy. I pull the engine out to change mine because i don't have a lift.
I just put the car on jackstands and take the transmission out from the bottom. I may have had to move the engine up/down, but there was no need to remove the engine.
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:20 PM   #15
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I've been in the process of swapping my transmission and clutch/flywheel, and with no prior experience at all, if I had proper tools I probably would have had it done in one or two days. It's literally ALL about having the right tools, the rest of it is just unbolting and removing things.
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:08 PM   #16
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I didn't mean to quote everybody, but my finger slipped.

Anyway I've done the clutch a bunch of times on multiple cars.
1) My first time doing it was by dropping the tranny - NEVER AGAIN. It's easier to lower an engine onto a tranny than it is to raise a tranny into a motor. PERIOD! It took me 9 hours to do it the first time. 5 hours the next and I've pretty consistent at 4 hours now.

2) I have never touched an air tool.

3) Dropping the tranny requires a little more precision when you remove the axles from the tranny - cause you have remove your allignment bolt and you could end up screwing up your allignment if you're not paying attention.

4) Other reasons below

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if you know what you are doing and have the correct tools its a straight forward job.
Well duh! Your advice applies to everything... Example - If you know how to bake a cake and have all the ingredients, it should be straight forward........ Unless you're like me and eat the batter prior to baking it. That's besides the point though.

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It depends on if you employ the assistance of people who know what they're doing or not. There is a DIY on here that had some helpful pictures, but the word-for-word is full of crap. You will definitely need the air tools, and plenty of time (min 8 hours). Also, you will want PB Blaster/liquid wrench, and will need some more tranny fluid. It's also a good time toupgrade (I had to fix this from "replace") crossmember bushings, DP gaskets, tranny mounts, pitch stopper, braided brake line, and anything like that.

And you WILL need a transmission jack. You can borrow/rent one from most auto product shops (Vato Zone, Chucker, etc.) for fairly cheap. If there is ANY POSSIBLE way to get access to a lift, it makes worlds of difference, and I would recommend it +123ventybillion times over again.

With the right tools, some dedication, and a bit of mechanical aptitude, you can save yourself $500. The labor isn't overly HARD, just takes time to do it right.
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Noah says that, with a lift, proper air tools, and plenty of experience, he can do one in four hours. That's how easy it is.
So can I - And thats with a cheapo Cresent combo set of tools and an occasional mallet or something. (and 10mm hex for shifter fork plug) and an engine hoist - However you will either need an engine hoist or a tranny jack... take your pick.

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I choose stoner for 200 please. . Or just take it to solid. I do all the work on my car and clutches are 1 I think is worth the 60 an hour. . I paid the guy 40 an hour 4 years ago after doing a few of my own (in a shop with every tool known to man, it took me 5 hours) well worth the money to pay someone.
I see your opportunity cost, but that only works if the time where you would be spending doing your clutch is in place of time where you WOULD be making money otherwise. (ie, taking unpaid time off from work to replace it yourself).

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Old 07-17-2009, 05:11 PM   #17
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oh the cost of not spending time with your wife.... That right there is worth the $200.00 to have someone else do it for you
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:34 PM   #18
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Dont need to remove the axles. Take out the pins, push the tranny slip out one axle, push the tranny the other way and slip out the other axle.

The easiest way is the way you are comfortable with and know.

I have done this job on an sti without airtools and on the ground. Lol soo much fun.
I have done numerous wrx's on a lift with airtools. Lol soo much fun.

At the end of the day it all depends on your attitude and your motivation.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:12 AM   #19
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I choose stoner for 200 please. . Or just take it to solid. I do all the work on my car and clutches are 1 I think is worth the 60 an hour. . I paid the guy 40 an hour 4 years ago after doing a few of my own (in a shop with every tool known to man, it took me 5 hours) well worth the money to pay someone.
I had solid do it about 1 year and a half ago, they were very reasonably priced, and did a great job. Thats what I get for using a gripforce clutch....

I just am very tight on cash right now, so am looking to do it myself to save some money.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:26 AM   #20
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Correction you do not have to remove your camber bolts you just have to un-bolt your lower control arms then take a pickle fork then pull it apart then using one of your legs you should be able to push the wheel out far enough to where it will clear. Enjoy =)
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:46 AM   #21
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Tight on cash you say. Well I will make you a deal 100 but your helpin.

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I had solid do it about 1 year and a half ago, they were very reasonably priced, and did a great job. Thats what I get for using a gripforce clutch....

I just am very tight on cash right now, so am looking to do it myself to save some money.
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