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Old 07-18-2009, 05:09 PM   #1
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Ok so about a week ago, I was driving(30mph) to a job interveiw. And all the sudden my car died, so I pulled off the road, and tried restarting it. Needless to say my car wouldn't and hasn't for a week, so I thought timing. Tore into the timing, all checked out right all marks were on the dot. Than I checked fuel, getting plenty off fuel(got soaked with it with the key on for a second). So than I thought spark, spark is good. Than did a leak down test all cylinders are in the green. So now I am thinking ecu, or maybe some sensor? By the way my car is a 2000 subaru forester with a 2.5l sohc. Any thoughts would be awesome. I miss drivin my scoobaru
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:18 PM   #2
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What happens when you try to start it? Does the engine actually turn? I'm going to assume it does since you were already driving when it stopped. Did it buck at all when it died? How did you test the spark?

Have you checked all fuses? Start with the engine bay.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:22 PM   #3
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I tested the spark by pulling out the plug putting it in the wire, and try starting it. Spark was blue, it did not buck, when I try to start it, it turns but acts like not enough spark. checked all the fuses, their in the clear. it also back fires through the intake. which is worrying me.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:49 PM   #4
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Any CEL's?

So, it cranks over fine, but won't fire? You also said it backfires through the intake? Are you really really sure the timing is correct?

Is this an AT or MT? If AT, did you try to start it with the gear selector in neutral?
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:57 PM   #5
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Any CEL's?

So, it cranks over fine, but won't fire? You also said it backfires through the intake? Are you really really sure the timing is correct?

Is this an AT or MT? If AT, did you try to start it with the gear selector in neutral?
yea we redid the timing today, a/t yes i did and the same. it cranks over goes through the starting stage fine just doesn't like to run... So i am thinking maybe crank poistion sensor or ecu.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:58 PM   #6
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If it's a crank position or cam position sensor that has failed, you would get a CEL.
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:02 PM   #7
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last time I had the car into o'reilys it had 7 cel's 4 were manifacterour codes, and two were my o'2 sensor going bad. but I mean she ran fine no problems nothing, and I didn't have the 70 bucks for a new o2 sensor. :/ but if it helps the day i went to go get my codes cleared the cel was flashing
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:05 PM   #8
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is it equipped with a factory 'security' system? i have seen them immobilize if the chip in the key gets wet or slammed to hard...
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:43 PM   #9
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security system has worked sense i bought the car last year, the keys have been in 4 inch of snow, puddles you name it. Havn't had a problem with it yet, but when i was checking plugs they were drenched with gas. So I am thinking she is getting to MUCH fuel causing my mpg to goto **** along with the stailing out and not starting. I mean I noticed a slight drop in my fuel enconmy in the past few months. So maybe something to do with my fuel rail's or something? sorry I am fairly new to subaru's but everything I have learned about them is self tought. So maybe someone can give me some more tips to expand my lessons
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:38 PM   #10
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last time I had the car into o'reilys it had 7 cel's 4 were manifacterour codes, and two were my o'2 sensor going bad. but I mean she ran fine no problems nothing, and I didn't have the 70 bucks for a new o2 sensor. :/ but if it helps the day i went to go get my codes cleared the cel was flashing
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:48 PM   #11
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enlighten me? it's the o2 sensor?
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Old 07-18-2009, 11:54 PM   #12
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anyone?
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Old 07-19-2009, 12:17 AM   #13
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enlighten me? it's the o2 sensor?
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last time I had the car into o'reilys it had 7 cel's
pick one....any one and start fixing THAT....by the time you fix the last one you will have figured this all out
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Old 07-19-2009, 12:29 AM   #14
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if you have that much fuel in the cylinders, you might consider an oil change very soon after this is figured out.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:05 AM   #15
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pick one....any one and start fixing THAT....by the time you fix the last one you will have figured this all out
like i said there's only a few that weren't many. codes, I know one was intake sensor. so maybe that is the problem?
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:18 AM   #16
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d00000000000d

the poke and hope method is the least likely to fix the issue

without the EXACT codes

ALL OF THEM

the 'fix' is nebulous at best.....pure pissing in the wind
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the car TOLD you what was going wrong----you ignored it and now you have to fix it and cant figure it out

this is ridiculous
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:51 PM   #17
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d00000000000d

the poke and hope method is the least likely to fix the issue

without the EXACT codes

ALL OF THEM

the 'fix' is nebulous at best.....pure pissing in the wind
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the car TOLD you what was going wrong----you ignored it and now you have to fix it and cant figure it out

this is ridiculous

yea but it's hard to fix something when you get the codes read at oreily's and autozone and both times they come up with nothing. Besides a damn 02senser
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Old 07-19-2009, 04:39 PM   #18
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so unplug your 02 sensor and see if that does anything.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:34 PM   #19
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i'm instailing a few new sensors tomorow when I can withdraw money out of the bank. Hopefully replacin the sensors will do something. I know replacing the 02sensor will also improve my mpg, due to the fact it won't be running rich. So I will see what happens.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:59 PM   #20
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I am having a similar problem with my scoob. It is a 2000 2.5rs can't figure out why it won't fire. Starter sounds a little slow, but could be cold weather related. Just installed a brand new battery so that shouldn't be the problem. I Tried starter fluid with no luck just not firing. Any suggestions would help.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:47 PM   #21
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i'm instailing a few new sensors tomorow when I can withdraw money out of the bank. Hopefully replacin the sensors will do something. I know replacing the 02sensor will also improve my mpg, due to the fact it won't be running rich. So I will see what happens.
I you have the codes but don't have the service manual for your 2000 forester I am sure there are people on this list that will decode them for you.
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