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Old 04-30-2002, 04:44 PM   #1
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Question Turbocharger or turbo-in-a-bottle?

I've been thinking about this for a long time, since before I've had my RS, that some day I'm going to turbocharge or supercharge her. But after some recent nitrous posts, and discussions of it, I'm having second thoughts.

Almost every post about "I just installed my turbo!" has some catastrophe associated with it. I was told recently it seems that every RS-T has at least one major problem that costs $1000+ to fix, which certainly is mostly true.

Then I read recently about someone's ZEX kit that only shoots while he's at WOT, which intriques me with one question:

Turbo in a bottle?

This has definitely caused me to think about it..fairly inexpensive (compared to a turbo kit), a lot easier to install (again compared to a turbo), very few headaches and almost the same results.

If anyone could help point me in the right direction, what I'd want is a kit thats functional at WOT, most importantly SAFE (flawless blowoff valve function, don't want over-pressurized explosion), easy to install, and I'm looking for around a 45 shot, nothng too large, but significant enough.

Also, how does one refill their nitrous tanks?

Please don't turn this into a "NAWS IS GHEY" thread or anything, and if I said something wrong, don't flame me for it. Lets keep it civilized, I know this is a volatile discussion topic, I just want some answers.
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Old 04-30-2002, 05:40 PM   #2
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Why not wait a bit and see what comes of all these supercharger applications that are being developed?

Or just save your $$ for cams & heads down the road. I say just wait your warranty out a bit longer and see what happens...
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Old 05-01-2002, 04:43 PM   #3
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well, i guess it'll depend on what you'll be using your car for. Do you want power to last you a few seconds at a time or power anytime you need it?


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Old 05-01-2002, 05:05 PM   #4
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I want power whenever I need it, which would be the ZEX kit that operates at WOT, but if you mean like in an emergency situation when I need speed, my car with its exhaust and intake is pretty quick for that..
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Old 05-01-2002, 05:09 PM   #5
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its all up to you, and all about how much you want to spend.
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Old 05-01-2002, 06:14 PM   #6
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I want power whenever I need it, which would be the ZEX kit that operates at WOT, but if you mean like in an emergency situation when I need speed, my car with its exhaust and intake is pretty quick for that..

yea...until the bottle runs out.

Well, it'll all depend really on how much you really want out of your car. If you wanna race people for a short amount of time or on the track, you could get a nitrous kit

w/ turbo you've don't have to worry about bottles running out.

I mean both, if not done properly will F up your engine. You'll hear a lot of the bad stuff and people whining about what's not working, but the guys who are happy usually don't say anything


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Old 05-01-2002, 06:44 PM   #7
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I say turbo, you'll be MUCH happier with it in the long run. I personally have been running my RS-T for two months now with no flaws.

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I was told recently it seems that every RS-T has at least one major problem that costs $1000+ to fix, which certainly is mostly true.
I find this to be extrememly NOT true. Most parts that break are due to improper use or tuning or the car. When you hear of a tranny breaking, its because someone was abusing it. When you hear about a piston blowing, its because the installed/driver didn't take the proper steps to tuning the car. Examples of this would be the necessity for timing control to prevent detonation, or a parallel fuel line mod so all cylinders run the same fuel pressure. Bottom line, don't believe everything you hear. It can be done right, and unless I get boost happy, I see no reason why my car won't run forever. Oh, and my secret weapon doesn't come in a blue bottle that has to be refilled, its PERMANENT and MEAN.

Take the TURBO CHALLENGE my friend, its fun.


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Old 05-01-2002, 08:58 PM   #8
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Save your pennies and do an engine swap, that way if you blow up your ej20 for some reason the trusty ej25 is waiting in the garage.

Definately not the cheapest way to go but turboing the ej25 PROPERLY is not cheap either. I've seen some pretty reasonably priced ej20's lately and with all the new WRX owners trashing their cars on a pretty regular basis there will likely be a healthy supply of salvaged engines in the next few years.
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Old 05-01-2002, 09:18 PM   #9
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I heard cobb might be making a supercharger that would use a "safe" amount of boost. So that might be worth waiting for, but then again if you are looking for real power, turbo is the best way to go. If you are just looking to win a drag race then get the ZEX. It's cheap, but pretty much just good for drag racing IMO. I think if you are just looking for a little bit of boost and you want it to be safe, wait for the supercharger and see what it can do. I also understand it will cost around 3000 for a complete kit, which sounds a lot cheaper than correctly going turbo.
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