06 STI UR T3/04S #'s

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 08:56 PM

Finally got the car sorted out and had the car tuned at Innovative. Here is my mod list and my results.

Power mods:
Engine Stock
AEM Stand alone
UR T3/04S .63AR modified to full BB and water cooled jacket.
DW 850cc injectors
Walbro pump
Aquamist HFS-6 kit running 50/50
Perrin FMIC
Full 3" exhaust
Tail 38mm WG
Tail BOV

Here is my dyno graph run at 24psi and meth:

Here are some more dyno's so you can compare.

Here is one on another dyno with similar mods run number 009.

Here is an STI with a built motor on the same dyno run at 25 psi, as you can see mine makes similar power.

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evo 3ater · 07-19-2009, 09:08 PM

isnt that a 60lb/min turbo? you made less then 400whp at 24psi? that seems realllly low

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

isnt that a 60lb/min turbo? you made less then 400whp at 24psi? that seems realllly low

Dyno's are a tuning aid don't take #'s from one dyno literally and compare them to another, if you look at the dyno from the sheet that does not belong to Innovative you will see that a similar setup on another dyno nets well over 400whp at 22psi. So you compare that to me running 24psi on it would be similar power on that dyno. It is are relative compare the curves.

Dyno's are a tuning aid, 1/4 mile MPH is the true teller.

evo 3ater · 07-19-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreboost

Dyno's are a tuning aid don't take #'s from one dyno literally and compare them to another, if you look at the dyno from the sheet that does not belong to Innovative you will see that a similar setup on another dyno nets well over 400whp at 22psi. So you compare that to me running 24psi on it would be similar power on that dyno. It is are relative compare the curves.

Dyno's are a tuning aid, 1/4 mile MPH is the true teller.

i know this... still unless its retardedly low reading dyno... i made 390whp with a 60-1 turbo on my g35 with 7.5psi... what kind of timing?

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 09:29 PM

It's a mustang dyno and it reads very low. I can tell you from my car being dynoed at 415 Whp before this tune and the addition of meth and full stand alone that the car is a lot quicker and smoother.
The power is much more linear and there is no lag between my shifts like before. So going from a MAHA dyno and reading 415WHP to what I have now is just the dyno reading differently. The car definitely has more power, This is why I posted the different graphs.

If you made almost 400whp on 7.5psi that is phenomenal and congrats on that.

evo 3ater · 07-19-2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreboost

It's a mustang dyno and it reads very low. I can tell you from my car being dynoed at 415 Whp before this tune and the addition of meth and full stand alone that the car is a lot quicker and smoother.
The power is much more linear and there is no lag between my shifts like before. So going from a MAHA dyno and reading 415WHP to what I have now is just the dyno reading differently. The car definitely has more power, This is why I posted the different graphs.

If you made almost 400whp on 7.5psi that is phenomenal and congrats on that.

high compression and more cylinders

chlnOrSlpn? · 07-19-2009, 10:03 PM

Yeh exactly, comparing a 6 cyl. higher compression motor to an STi is not apples to apples.

There is an 06 STi w/ 35R making under 400whp I believe on innovatives mustang dyno and running mid/low 11 second passes...to OP congrats on power!

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

high compression and more cylinders

Well that is irrelevant then.

loco20 · 07-19-2009, 10:04 PM

i have basically the same setup minus the bb/water cooled, ill post numbers when i get tuned to compare (mustang dyno as well) i think alot of people forget that a dyno is just a tool, congrats on the power

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loco20

i have basically the same setup minus the bb/water cooled, ill post numbers when i get tuned to compare (mustang dyno as well)

Sounds good always nice to see some other set ups that are similar.

loco20 · 07-19-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreboost

Sounds good always nice to see some other set ups that are similar.

i have been waiting for someone to post up results on this turbo for a while. thanks

evo 3ater · 07-19-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreboost

Well that is irrelevant then.

i wasnt comparing just stating. 25psi on that setup should be upper 400s

moreboost · 07-19-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

i wasnt comparing just stating. 25psi on that setup should be upper 400s

I give up you win! You obviously did not read the post properly. Good night.

chlnOrSlpn? · 07-19-2009, 10:40 PM

Any updated pics of your engine bay?

evo 3ater · 07-19-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreboost

I give up you win! You obviously did not read the post properly. Good night.

i did read... youre saying its a mustang dyno which is low reading but almost 100whp lower then where it should be around. im sorry youre getting your feelings hurt because i made an observation. go take it to the track and post a trap speed. and if its a good trap showing you make good power then that dyno is veryyyy low reading. i made 300whp 350wtq on a mustang dyno with vf39 tbe large tmic cai and meth at 24psi. im not trying to offend you so i dont see the need for the way youre acting. if youre happy with the car thats all that matters

modaddict · 07-20-2009, 12:02 AM

Congrats on the power.

Question.....why did you modify that turbo for BB? Any reason you just didn't step up to a 35r at that point? One would think with the modification you performed, you are now in the cost range of a 35r, with the lower power of a 60lb turbo?

just asking...

jigga · 07-20-2009, 12:36 AM

Congrats on the new found power. Mike is an excellent tuner to deal with!

From what I have seen so far, Innovative's dyno isn't just a heartbreaker.. it is a heart crusher, especially for those used to seeing Dynojet numbers. The only other dyno I have read about that might be equally as stingy would be Buschur's dyno.

The numbers it puts out seem more in line with what our Australian members are used to seeing on the dyno, and not so much the higher numbers that we are used to seeing over here.

At the end of the day however, these are just numbers, as evident by the trap speeds that the other beautifully modified silver STi tuned by Mike puts up at the drag strip. I think the owner of that car is a member here also. While the dyno numbers are low, the real world trap speeds are crazy high, which I would prefer any day of the week.

n2oiroc · 07-20-2009, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loco20

i have been waiting for someone to post up results on this turbo for a while. thanks

pass and save up for a 35R.

loco20 · 07-20-2009, 10:11 AM

Little to late for that it's already in my car just waiting to weld bov

I picked up this kit for nothing just sold my green setup so I dont think ill be unhappy

Steve.804 · 07-20-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

i know this... still unless its retardedly low reading dyno... i made 390whp with a 60-1 turbo on my g35 with 7.5psi... what kind of timing?

I'd like to nominate this post for the "most usless of 2009". Thanks

Congrats to the OP on the newfound power.

evo 3ater · 07-20-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve.804

I'd like to nominate this post for the "most usless of 2009". Thanks

Congrats to the OP on the newfound power.

man i bet everyone nasioc thinks youre cool now.... learn how to spell

moreboost · 07-20-2009, 01:02 PM

I had an issue with the turbo last summer and had to send it back to Precision to be repaired for the 2nd time. They upgraded me for half the cost due the issues so I jumped on it. This is now a 35R with 70lbs/ min wheel .63 AR.

06AZREX · 07-20-2009, 01:20 PM

Congrats

Steve.804 · 07-20-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

man i bet everyone nasioc thinks youre cool now.... learn how to spell

Evo 3ater don't get all butt hurt now because you are comparing a low compression 4cyl to a high compression 6cyl with a different turbo on a different dyno. It's ok man, we were all new at one point. Please pm with any questions about your Subaru

evo 3ater · 07-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve.804

Evo 3ater don't get all butt hurt now because you are comparing a low compression 4cyl to a high compression 6cyl with a different turbo on a different dyno. It's ok man, we were all new at one point. Please pm with any questions about your Subaru

wow man youre my hero... i didnt compare them if you read but i guess thats a little past you since youre all knowing. i compared my vf 39 on the same dyno to his. i build and tune all of my cars myself... and im sure you pay for both on yours

07-19-2009, 08:56 PM	#1
moreboost Scooby Newbie Member#: 124212 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Ottawa Vehicle: 06 STI Built By Inn-Tune	06 STI W/ Ultimate-Racing T3/04S #'s and Video Finally got the car sorted out and had the car tuned at Innovative. Here is my mod list and my results. Power mods: Engine Stock AEM Stand alone UR T3/04S .63AR modified to full BB and water cooled jacket. DW 850cc injectors Walbro pump Aquamist HFS-6 kit running 50/50 Perrin FMIC Full 3" exhaust Tail 38mm WG Tail BOV Here is my dyno graph run at 24psi and meth: Here are some more dyno's so you can compare. Here is one on another dyno with similar mods run number 009. Here is an STI with a built motor on the same dyno run at 25 psi, as you can see mine makes similar power. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by moreboost; 07-24-2009 at 02:55 PM. Reason: update

07-20-2009, 01:02 PM	#22
moreboost Scooby Newbie Member#: 124212 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Ottawa Vehicle: 06 STI Built By Inn-Tune	I had an issue with the turbo last summer and had to send it back to Precision to be repaired for the 2nd time. They upgraded me for half the cost due the issues so I jumped on it. This is now a 35R with 70lbs/ min wheel .63 AR. Last edited by moreboost; 07-20-2009 at 01:14 PM.

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evo 3ater Scooby Specialist Member#: 133765 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: st. pete florida Vehicle: 06 sti black	isnt that a 60lb/min turbo? you made less then 400whp at 24psi? that seems realllly low

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moreboost Scooby Newbie Member#: 124212 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Ottawa Vehicle: 06 STI Built By Inn-Tune	It's a mustang dyno and it reads very low. I can tell you from my car being dynoed at 415 Whp before this tune and the addition of meth and full stand alone that the car is a lot quicker and smoother. The power is much more linear and there is no lag between my shifts like before. So going from a MAHA dyno and reading 415WHP to what I have now is just the dyno reading differently. The car definitely has more power, This is why I posted the different graphs. If you made almost 400whp on 7.5psi that is phenomenal and congrats on that.

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chlnOrSlpn? Scooby Specialist Member#: 97785 Join Date: Oct 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: CT Vehicle: 2005 WRX Stg 2 EFI Logics/CTSUBIE	Yeh exactly, comparing a 6 cyl. higher compression motor to an STi is not apples to apples. There is an 06 STi w/ 35R making under 400whp I believe on innovatives mustang dyno and running mid/low 11 second passes...to OP congrats on power!

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loco20 Scooby Specialist Member#: 95670 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Norwalk CT Vehicle: 06 STG 4 wrb STI EFI LOGICS TUNED! RIP CSK	i have basically the same setup minus the bb/water cooled, ill post numbers when i get tuned to compare (mustang dyno as well) i think alot of people forget that a dyno is just a tool, congrats on the power

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