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Old 04-30-2002, 08:22 PM   #1
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Default To dynamat or not to dynamat???

I love SQ and I'm gonna be putting in a nice lower end compitition worthy system. Eclipse 8V hu, orion C200.4 on MB Quart RSC 216 and RKC 113, but the big thing is the Orion HCCA 250 G4 on a HCCA 12D in a optimized SubZone box, it will be pushed at 800 watts RMS.

Dynamat is just so time consuming and $$$ (I'd rather spend the rest of my money on performance mods) I've also looked into cascade but the place where I'm gonna get everything installed dynmat so I figure just to stay with it.

I don't wanna buy it from them cause they charge out the @$$ above retail. Also I don't want to weigh down the REX any more than I have to, already the sub and box is CRAZY.



Anybody seen this? also if so at any price less than $200?
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:05 PM   #2
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check out this site man www.b-quiet.com
The have tons of stuff but the best is the Brown Bread, the liquid stuff is supposed to be good too.
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:51 PM   #3
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spraying large area doesnt work so well...

not very impressive...

use Dyanaliner for the floor...(doesnt stick, comes in 1 4x4 piece)

use extreme for the doors and trunk...(no heat needed)

b-quiet is cheaper... for a reason.



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Old 05-01-2002, 10:54 AM   #4
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Probably the cheapest place to get dynamat online (with shipping too) is www.thezeb.com . I bought Xtreme 2 Door kits (12sq feet) for 49.99 a box (6 of em) and flat $7 total shipping cost.

Or check out Ebay for a guy named Raam. He either makes or contracts his own that sell for WAAAAY cheaper than any brand name stuff.


It's pretty hard to have an awesome stereo and a really fast car. Unless you really drop some cash.
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Old 05-01-2002, 01:25 PM   #5
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This does bring up an interesting question, besides money and weight what are the side effects of Dynamatting a car?




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Old 05-01-2002, 06:50 PM   #6
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The cheap or older stuff smells like asphalt, as does any type of roofing stuff you use as the equivalent. Some one else posted that he used the roofing stuff and had the smell, but after taping up the visible seams there was no more smell.

In the 8 new boxes of Dynamat Xtreme that I have I cannot notice any asphalt smell.

Weight added to the car and the weight removed from your wallet are the only two negative effects that it has IMO.
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Old 05-02-2002, 01:45 AM   #7
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Anyone install themselves? what are the main places to get, door panels and trunk? How wild would you go with the trunk?

How difficult is it to roll on?
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Old 05-20-2002, 11:39 PM   #8
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Old 05-21-2002, 12:15 PM   #9
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Anyone install themselves? what are the main places to get, door panels and trunk? How wild would you go with the trunk?

How difficult is it to roll on?
I've installed about 6 of those 8 boxes so far, all I need to do is the trunk.

Here is what I did:
Roof: the roof is really hollow; if you have been in the rain in the car then it is really evident. I went nuts because I want to have a future competition car. I almost used 2 door kit boxes on the roof alone (separate from the other 8 I have). You could get away with big pieces in-between the roof rails. A wallpaper roller would really help since this is a BIG flat area and it is also above your head.

Doors: the doors are like a drum too. I tried to completely cover the inside of the outer door skin. That makes the whole door seem more solid. I also covered some parts of the inner door skin (where it felt really hollow or weak). Then I also completely covered the inside of the actual door panel. I am not using door speakers (in the new system) so I did not completely cover everything. Most of this is to make the door seem more solid, but it does help the speakers some too.

Trunk: I need to brace and dynamat the rear deck lid so it does not rattle. I plan on doing the entire trunk once I find and fix a leak I am getting from a screw hole. I want to do behind the factory carpet all the way against the outer sheet metal of the car and the entire floor of the trunk. The spare tire well is very resonant as well. I am currently doing the trunk lid with expanding foam (Great Stuff ~$6). It would be easiest if you took the lid off the car but I was the only one around and I didn't want to chance scratching the car taking it off myself. I sprayed foam in the small hollow reinforcing rails on the "top" area of the lid. I am going back to trim off all of the excess foam (watch it if you leave it on the car, put cardboard down all around it so it doesn't drip on the car) and then put dynamat extreme over everything.

As long as you can get your hand in the area Dynamat Extreme is pretty easy to put on. My friend that helped me put it on has dealt with Dynamat from a while ago (4+ years ago) and he said it has gotten a lot better. We never needed to use a heat gun or anything to get it to form or stick. Dynamat and the foam work best when it is dry and fairly warm outside. I found that leaving the extra dynamat in the sun while I was working helped out a bit to soften it up some more (it was only ~60-70deg. in MN at the time).

The most tiring part was doing the roof since you'll always have your arms above your head. The doors are annoying but fairly easy once you get into a groove. Be cautious about the door handle trim rings, I broke 2 and the damn things cost $6 each.
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Old 05-21-2002, 02:22 PM   #10
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I say go with Dynamat. Yes it's expensive, yes they've cornered the market, but... it is the best stuff going.

If thezeb.com sells it cheaper, do it that way! So long as shipping isn't overcharged...

And the Dynamat Extreme is wonderful. I have that on my trunklid. The stuff sticks like crazy (without the need to heat it, I think, like the Classic stuff), and it's so sticky that your name would have to be Clark Kent to peel it off of there.

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Old 05-21-2002, 02:41 PM   #11
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thezeb.com is WAAAAY cheaper. $50 for a 2 door kit instead of $80-100 at Audio King (one of the few retailers that sell it around here).

I ordered 8 boxes of the stuff and was only charged $7 S&H. THey have a minimum fee and then Dynamat is free shipping.
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Old 05-21-2002, 02:53 PM   #12
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Don't forget partsexpress.com. Same stuff as your basic dynamat. You can get the regular asphalt stuff or search for 'lightweigh vinyl' which is lighter and better damping stuff.
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Old 05-21-2002, 08:28 PM   #13
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Quote:
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Same stuff as your basic dynamat.
no. its not.

but its cheap, and thats important right??? er..

hmmm.

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Old 05-21-2002, 09:04 PM   #14
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Just go visit www.raamaudio.com . Look at the thickness/weight of each roll. stats dont lie, this stuff is way better than dynamat. and you get 62.5 sqft for 99 bucks. ive got a roll sitting in my basement waiting for a nice day to go in. if you dont believe me go to www.sounddomain.com and search the forum for "raammat" and you will see the great reviews about this stuff. im not trying to preach, just trying to save you guys a little money.


that and you wont be able to beat rick's customer service.

oh you said you liked sq, well rick and his mat have been a finalist in sq for the last couple of years, has been featured in mobile entertainment mag, and his mat was on several cars at CES.
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Old 05-21-2002, 09:25 PM   #15
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Try RAAMmat, its gotten excellent reviews from users on the boards. The same as Dynamat Extreme w/o the label, and much cheaper. RAAMmats original version is 45mil while Dynamat is .044" and its also available 60mil thick. 12sqft Dynamat @thezeb is 50$ and dirict from RAAMaudio 50sqft of 45mil is 69$ and 62.5sqft of 60mil is 99$. Check it out: www.raamaudio.com
PS, theres a discussion on the caraudio boards about a discount for the group and if you write retrodrive on you order you can get the 45mil for 55$ and the 60mil stuff IIRC for 79$.
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Old 05-21-2002, 09:33 PM   #16
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holy crap, great minds think alike
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Old 05-21-2002, 09:58 PM   #17
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How good is Brown Bread? or the Cascade Visoelastic stuff?
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Old 05-21-2002, 10:24 PM   #18
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IIRC, brown bread can be messy and the cascade stuff... not realy sure. Go to www.sounddomain.com and do a search
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Old 05-22-2002, 02:35 AM   #19
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I would say hook up with someone at a local shop because wholesale on Dynamat is dirt cheap...for example, at my job, a 4 square foot roll retails for $34.99. My cost on it is 11 and change. If you can do that, your in pretty good shape. I dynamatted the whole trunk in my old civic for about 80 bucks.
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