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Old 07-21-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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Default Ahhhh the one thing my 08 was missing... a Sunroof!

I'm sure this will go over one of two ways with folks in this crowd, you'll either love it or hate it...

double panel double vent moonroof, re did the headliner in suede while I was at it... The suede actually matches the seats of the STi interior, a lot darker than it looks with the flash...


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Closed ----------------------------------------- Single Vent
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Fully open, and from inside - front of car on left.
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fully open, and pic toward back of car showing headliner....

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fully closed with shade closed and open....
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pic of controls and front headliner, then fully closed from rear left.

The roof also double vents, both panels tilt up, just didn't photograph it cuz i suck...

edit: Apparently I did - I suck less than I thought?...
edit2: nevermind 10 images only... LAME


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Old 07-21-2009, 09:54 PM   #2
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:56 PM   #3
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:02 PM   #4
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thats the only thing my 09 is lacking
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:04 PM   #5
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Cute, how did this affect any structural members?
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:08 PM   #6
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but looks good...
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:09 PM   #7
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well, if you saw it put in you wouldn't ask that question but it's a fair one... The new roof is braced at 3 spots as opposed to one on the roofless setup and I'd be surprised if it's not as safe... It's a hard argument to say it's SAFER but it is definitely more braced than it is stock.... - I even made a point to make sure they knew I tracked the car regularly (not really, but probably 4-5 times a year) and was a fairly abusive driver... they added a 3rd brace (normally only 2) just to reassure me it was not going to be an issue.

There are some half ass sunroof installs out there for sure, but this wasn't one of them. I'm sure they loved me hawking over their shoulder the whole time too ;P

This is my second car with a custom sunroof, both times I did loads of research - finding the right installer I think is the key, we'll see how it holds up... FWIW my 02 WRX I sold to a friend, still has the car, and the custom sunroof has never leaked, failed or caused a problem...
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:10 PM   #8
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but looks good...
Wet interior from?... if it leaks it's 100% warrantied for life including replacement of headliner if necessary... I've had more issues with the factory sunroof in my land cruiser than I ever had with the custom roof in my 02 WRX...
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:11 PM   #9
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"I'm sure this will go over one of two ways with folks in this crowd, you'll either love it or hate it..."
That's usually how it goes...
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:14 PM   #10
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I like it.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:15 PM   #11
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:17 PM   #12
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thats the only thing my 09 is lacking
I'm kinda surprised it's not an option on their flagship car.... i mean the purists will say it adds weight in the wrong spot or causes rigidity problems - bah... most of us drive our cars at 1/10th it's capability 99% of the time... I own one of the baddest ass offroad machines available in stock trim (100 series land cruiser) - know how many times it's been offroad more than a dusty road? 3 times...

same story here.... a nice sunroof should be available from the factory... i fargin love the sunroof in the forester, almost worth buying the car just for that....

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Old 07-21-2009, 10:28 PM   #13
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I'm kinda surprised it's not an option on their flagship car.... i mean the purists will say it adds weight in the wrong spot or causes rigidity problems - bah... most of us drive our cars at 1/10th it's capability 99% of the time... I own one of the baddest ass offroad machines available in stock trim (100 series land cruiser) - know how many times it's been offroad more than a dusty road? 3 times...

same story here.... a nice sunroof should be available from the factory... i fargin love the sunroof in the forester, almost worth buying the car just for that....

-Z
A reason a lot of the people who buy this car buy it because the body is not a compromise for options such as a sunroof. These people will gut the car and the body will be all they keep.

Anyway, I think they will find a way to fit one in when the body is near the end of it's lifecycle, but it will be a roof they can fit in there, not a roof they have to make room for...

On my phone, I can't quote decently, but it is nice to see both of universalist's personalities are a fan of it...
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:54 PM   #14
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I like it's look and I like the fact that you did what you wanted to your car....BUT!!! You ruined the structural integrity of the car. If you corner hard and drive the Sti for what it was built for, expect some flex and expect it very soon.
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:01 AM   #15
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Who put it in?
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:03 AM   #16
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Sunroof was one of the reasons I got a Saabaru over a WRX, that and leather and I couldn't afford an STI Limited Edition at the time
How much headroom did you have to kill for the sunroof?
As for structure, my roof is fine with it as a factory option as have other WRX bodies, just add some additional bracing to yours if you don't already have it and it should be good.
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Wet interior from?... if it leaks it's 100% warrantied for life including replacement of headliner if necessary... I've had more issues with the factory sunroof in my land cruiser than I ever had with the custom roof in my 02 WRX...
Leavin' it open on accident...
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:59 AM   #18
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Nice.

How much did it set you back?
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:23 AM   #19
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Nice.

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Old 07-22-2009, 02:51 AM   #20
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I like it's look and I like the fact that you did what you wanted to your car....BUT!!! You ruined the structural integrity of the car. If you corner hard and drive the Sti for what it was built for, expect some flex and expect it very soon.
I just don't agree with this at all, and it's from personal experience...

The car has more bracing across the top of the car and structure now than it had before - on my 02 WRX which I tracked 5-10 times a year and autocrossed 20 times a year, there was NEVER a problem...

I know the naysayers will sit on one side and say I've runined the structural integrity of the car, but how many of those naysayers have actually done it? I firmly believe the car has more structural rigidity across the top now than it had in stock form...

I appreciate your take, I just respectfully disagree and base that disagreement not on opinion or anecdotal tale, but the fact that I've done this before and watched this one get put in.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:52 AM   #21
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Leavin' it open on accident...
oh... you'd have to TRY to do that... sunroof closes automagically 10 seconds after key goes off... you have to override that feature by pushing a button after turning the car off ;P
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:56 AM   #22
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A reason a lot of the people who buy this car buy it because the body is not a compromise for options such as a sunroof. These people will gut the car and the body will be all they keep.

Anyway, I think they will find a way to fit one in when the body is near the end of it's lifecycle, but it will be a roof they can fit in there, not a roof they have to make room for...

On my phone, I can't quote decently, but it is nice to see both of universalist's personalities are a fan of it...
I think that's a load of horse hockey... to say "lots of people" buy these cars for that reason is probably not accurate... in fact I would wager 95% of WRX's and STi's sold never see a hard track day, autocross or canyon romp...

I will admit if I were building a hard core race car, I wouldn't do this - but I spend 99% of my time on the street, in traffic and daily driving... even *IF* I give up some torsional rigidity (still debatable) I gain delight in my car 99% of the time...

I'm not at all concerned about safety or roll over protection.. I basically have a tripple wide roll over brace going across the roof now...

the only REAL downside i can think of from a performance perspective is that I added 22 net lbs to the very top of my car, not exactly the best place for it.... that could easily be offset by my fat ass losing 30 lbs...
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:04 AM   #23
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Who put it in?
Chucks tops and trim in San Antonio, came highly recommended - they do most if not all of the dealer installs and stand behind their work 100% - so much so that they are replacing two interior trim pieces because they scratched them... I actually didn't even notice or care ;P


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Sunroof was one of the reasons I got a Saabaru over a WRX, that and leather and I couldn't afford an STI Limited Edition at the time
How much headroom did you have to kill for the sunroof?
As for structure, my roof is fine with it as a factory option as have other WRX bodies, just add some additional bracing to yours if you don't already have it and it should be good.
I won't negate that for a pure race car, a sunroof is probably not the brightest idea - but I'm with you, this is my daily and subaru is missing the boat - an STi is up to a 42k$ car - most people who CAN afford it would like some more options... just my opinion though.

I am not sure how much room I gave up to be fair, the 08 had WAY more headroom than I needed, and I'm 6'3" - and it still does.... probably an inch and a half? just a swag.


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Nice.

How much did it set you back?
The retail price of the roof installed is 1295+tax I chose to upgrade to suede headliner for a marginal up charge... net net I paid (rather my wife did) < 1000$ but partially because I was owed a credit through my dealer for a boost gauge install I never used, so they PO'd it, gave my wife a gift certificate which she gave to me. There is a single panel roof which was 100$ cheaper.

I also opted NOT to get the rain sensor which would close the sunroof if/when it sensed rain... but since it will never rain here, i figured it was a waste of 100$
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:04 AM   #24
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I think it's awesome!! I can haz?

as for the structural rigidity, when I bought my 02 WRX, I asked about a sunroof. The dealer immediatly pointed out the rollover aspect and claimed the roof was never designed for one. That installing one would be a high risk, but definately do-able. 6 weeks later I rolled that car 5 times. I can without a doubt say I'm glad I didn't get the sunroof. However, now, 7 years Peter I would expect this may be different.

I see this as one more thing I want to do to mine.
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I think that's a load of horse hockey... to say "lots of people" buy these cars for that reason is probably not accurate... in fact I would wager 95% of WRX's and STi's sold never see a hard track day, autocross or canyon romp...

I will admit if I were building a hard core race car, I wouldn't do this - but I spend 99% of my time on the street, in traffic and daily driving... even *IF* I give up some torsional rigidity (still debatable) I gain delight in my car 99% of the time...

I'm not at all concerned about safety or roll over protection.. I basically have a tripple wide roll over brace going across the roof now...

the only REAL downside i can think of from a performance perspective is that I added 22 net lbs to the very top of my car, not exactly the best place for it.... that could easily be offset by my fat ass losing 30 lbs...
'lots of people' is a non-descriptive number, because I don't know, or want to take a stab at the number of people who buy the cars for the express purpose of stripping them out and making them racing cars. Surely Subaru knows that these cars make up a fair share of their market, and through the use of these cars for this very specific purpose it helps sell the cars to regular people like you and me because we think to ourselves when buying "if they are good enough for someone to rally, they're good enough for me to drive"

I'm not making an argument that your car is less structurally sound than mine, or less agile, but merely the argument that Subaru doesn't put these things in the cars from the factory.

That and if they put them in the first years of a production run, they won't have neat goodies to put on the car later in the production run to entice new buyers, like putting the 4 pots on the 06-07 wrx.

Anyway, if the car get s sunroof farther down the line it will be a tiny thing that fits in space as it is possible.
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