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Old 07-22-2009, 01:15 PM   #1
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How low does the needle on the Fuel gauge go before the light comes on? I've had the tank down to just over 1.6 gallons of petrol left in the tank and still no light. Needle a ways below the 'E'. Also if i turn the ignition on, all the lights come on but the Fuel light. Is that normal?

The needle is about right on maybe just below 'E' now. Might just fill a Fuel container and do some driving an a little while.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:33 PM   #2
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Mine comes on just above the "E".

I wouldn't recommend deliberately trying to run it out of gas. I know someone that ran out by accident and had a hefty injector cleaning/replacement repair bill.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:03 PM   #3
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Same here - right at the E-line is when my light comes on. Typically I've found that it comes on somewhere between 3 and 2.5 gallons of gas left tho.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:33 PM   #4
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in theory it's supposed to come on at 2.6 gal according to the manual. I have the scanguage and it's usaully around that. For me it's just above the last white line. It stalls out at 16.1gal found that out the hard way now.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:38 PM   #5
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Also if i turn the ignition on, all the lights come on but the Fuel light. Is that normal?
I don't know that I've paid attention specifically to the E light, but the theory on most vehicles is that all warning lights are supposed to come on as a self-check (to make sure the bulb and circuit is working) anytime the key is turned from OFF to ON.

So I would think there is something wrong with the bulb/circuit.
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:46 AM   #6
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Well I went to work, came home and did did a bit of a detour and still no light and i haven't even run out of gas yet.
I almost definitely must be under a gallon of gas. In fact its probably literally got fumes left in there.

So im pretty certain now especially after what all you have said, that its not working.

Subaru must either have crappy sensors or bulbs in there because we bought a 95 Legacy LSI about 3.5 years ago which also had a non working fuel light.
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:40 PM   #7
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I always can tell how much is left when I fill up. It's a 16.9 gal tank. minus whatever you put in. I've never filled up my tank with more than 16.2 gallons and that needle was WAY below the E line.
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:11 PM   #8
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Well it definitely was on fumes last night. Try to start the car this morning and it was running out of gas.

Guess i'll be taking it to Subaru tomorrow.
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:13 AM   #9
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Subaru must either have crappy sensors or bulbs in there because we bought a 95 Legacy LSI about 3.5 years ago which also had a non working fuel light.

I should walk out to the car and check it, but IF it is supposed to self-test, then it has nothing to do with the sensor, it's the circuit between the ECM and the light (or the bulb itself).
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Old 07-25-2009, 08:56 AM   #10
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I happened to think of this post yesterday while I was washing my engine. Yeah, I'm anal about my Baja. I checked since my low fuel light works properly and goes off with about 2.6 gallons left in the tank and the needle almost on the E mark. The light DOES NOT come on with the key test. For whatever reason that circuit isn't tested at start up.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:06 PM   #11
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@BrunoShield,

Thanks for looking into that for me. So its either the bulb or the sensor then.
Didnt get time to take it to Subaru yesterday but will get it there on Monday since they need to put a sticker on it anyway.
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Old 07-25-2009, 01:11 PM   #12
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I just signed up here and doesn't look like I can start a new topic, so this one seemed "close". I bought a Fuel Filter to save some bucks on maintenance, but now can't find where it's at on the Baja. I've looked under the car and under the hood, nothing looks right. Is it hidden somewhere?
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Old 07-25-2009, 02:00 PM   #13
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On the right hand side of the engine by the strut housing.
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:36 PM   #14
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Thanks... I see something "large" in that area that might be a fuel filter, connected with metal lines. It's twice as big as what I bought, which looks like the Bosch filter here: http://www.drivewire.com/products/su...-filter/18478/ which appears to need rubber lines.

OK, I went and took a shot: http://i.pbase.com/o6/13/3613/1/1153...aFuelLines.jpg
These are the fuel lines on the drivers side. They don't seem to trace to a Filter (unless those 2 "small" black things are filters). Nothing looking like the filter recommended for a 2005 Baja. Any other ideas where to look?

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Old 07-26-2009, 02:06 AM   #15
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Thanks... I see something "large" in that area that might be a fuel filter, connected with metal lines. It's twice as big as what I bought, which looks like the Bosch filter here: http://www.drivewire.com/products/su...-filter/18478/ which appears to need rubber lines.

OK, I went and took a shot: http://i.pbase.com/o6/13/3613/1/1153...aFuelLines.jpg
These are the fuel lines on the drivers side. They don't seem to trace to a Filter (unless those 2 "small" black things are filters). Nothing looking like the filter recommended for a 2005 Baja. Any other ideas where to look?
The bosch filter looks like what i have. That pic you have doesnt work. Ill take a look at mine in the morning and get back to you.
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #16
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Only the 2003 has the fuel filter in the engine bay everythign else has it built in to the gas tank and it's not serviceable..
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:42 AM   #18
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Wow! Glad I decided to start doing most of the 15K service myself! They charge like $200, and list a lot stuff... like change air filter, change FUEL filter, rotate tires, change oil, add gas treatment, add oil treatment, inspect this and that.... Well I get free rotations at DT, just replaced the air filter for $12, and if they don't change the fuel filter they're a total rip off! I will let them keep changing my oil and oil filter, well worth $20-$30. Hopefully I can return the Fuel Filter I bought. Thanks for the answer!

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Only the 2003 has the fuel filter in the engine bay everythign else has it built in to the gas tank and it's not serviceable..
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:09 PM   #19
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I should walk out to the car and check it, but IF it is supposed to self-test, then it has nothing to do with the sensor, it's the circuit between the ECM and the light (or the bulb itself).
I happened to think of this post yesterday while I was washing my engine.
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The light DOES NOT come on with the key test. For whatever reason that circuit isn't tested at start up.
Bruno, you beat me to it, I remembered to check as I was leaving for the weekend (in the Baja) but was away from a computer until now - yeah, for some reason that circuit doesn't seem to self test. I do know mine is otherwise working normally.

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