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Old 04-30-2002, 11:32 PM   #1
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i have a MY99 Impreza L and i want a cheep turbo . . . stage I ? . . . i just want a little more pep. I want more power for my money, NA mods can only go so far. What would be a good choice that would give the car more kick but wouldnt empty my pockets.

Also how much would it be to have it installed and tuned?


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Old 04-30-2002, 11:44 PM   #2
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i dont think you want to use cheap and turbo kit in the same sentence unless you dont care about reliability. if you dont have enough money to buy a kit and then have some left over to fix your engine when it breaks it wouldnt suggest doing it. but take a look at the sticky thread at the top.
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Old 04-30-2002, 11:47 PM   #3
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If you haven't read this yet, please do.... It goes along with what boysetsfire is getting at.... Things to figure out before picking parts for your turbo project
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Old 05-01-2002, 12:35 AM   #4
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i have enough cash that i could buy an expensive stage III turbo kit but i dont need that i am simply looking for a bit more then what a NA mod could give me.

and kastle thats a great thread thanks.

i want to buy a simple turbo kit that will improve performance reliably
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Old 05-01-2002, 12:38 AM   #5
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Check out the Ludespeed and Forced Air Tech (FAT) stage I kits... they pretty much come with everything you need...

Aftermarket Forced Induction isn't the most reliable arena to be in... to many of has blown engines or trannies in the quest....
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Old 05-01-2002, 09:32 AM   #6
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Kastle is right. Then again, some of us had have better luck than others.

My 1.8T has rolled 172k yesterday and went turbo at 110k. The new motor went in at 153k.

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Old 05-01-2002, 04:10 PM   #7
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how much money will i be spending to have a kit like the lude speed stage I installed and tuned?
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Old 05-01-2002, 04:17 PM   #8
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how much money will i be spending to have a kit like the lude speed stage I installed and tuned?
Check hourly rates at your local shop. Took me and a friend about 18hrs to install it.
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Old 05-01-2002, 06:24 PM   #9
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LOL @ Jewbaru...

If the shop has done it before, it shouldn't take more than a couple hours. Those of us who have taken our "kits" in and out can probably do it in about 2 hours. During my up and down pipe development time, I've had my times as low as 30 minutes to get from open headers to install up pipe, down pipe, o2, and oil lines. The real catch is the oil pan tapping time. I don't know about everyone else, but those back bolts are a PITA. Even by loosening the two engine mounts and raising the motor a few inches, it takes me a while to replace the pan.

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Old 05-01-2002, 06:33 PM   #10
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Original install time : 23 hours

Original removal time : 5 hours

Re-install time : 4 hours

Re-removal time : 1-1/2 hours

I can probably install my kit in about 2 hours now. Keep in mind the original removal did not remove the oil pan, and it is still on there. I have done oil pan removal & installs in about 45 minutes, just have to lift the engine and use a swivel socket for the rears. If I had a cordless impact and went to swap it now, maybe 20 minutes.

Most of the time for everything is doing it for the first time. I now know the system so well up and down that I could design one in my sleep.
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Old 05-01-2002, 08:19 PM   #11
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Nick are you crazy!!!! NEVER use any power tools on the oil pan. Tighten them down with a 1/4 in drive 10mm socket until the Fujibond barely start to come out the top. Dude you are insane
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Old 05-01-2002, 10:33 PM   #12
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If you want reliable turbo power, look into doing a WRX engine swap. The cost is remarkably close to the cost of doing a reliable aftermarket setup and you have the added bonus of having the local Sube dealership being able to wrench on it if necessary.

Too bad you're in MD. Here in CA, you could talk to Chris,"Christoph1371" or Bill,"Skywalker" from I-Speed about it. They've done several WRX/RS swaps already.
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Old 05-01-2002, 11:28 PM   #13
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thanks for all the info guys. i'm still tryin to decide between turbo and NA. Decisions, decisions.
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:04 AM   #14
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Hehe, here I come again
The labor cost really cannot be avoided, unless you can DIY most of the way...but getting all the parts without spending a whole lot may still be possible. One way is to go for the IHI turbo route, while the other trying to find an used kit. This will save you some money to compensate for installation/tuning cost. The installation really isn't the hardest, rather the tuning that kills.
If you are keeping the boost low, then reliability issue shouldn't be seriously altered, provided that you do not insanely abuse it
After all these explanation, can I just say: Hmmm, I will be selling my almost-complete DSM fabricated turbo kit, especially excellent for the L!

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