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Old 04-12-2001, 07:27 PM   #1
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Arrow Caravanning Rules & Procedures

Please take the time to read this, or print it out for future reading.

NESIC has been growing and growing and as such is starting to have growing pains, one of them being caravanning. I’m not talking about the 1 or 2 car ones, but the larger 5+ car ones. Anybody organizing 5+ car caravans needs to be aware how dangerous they can be. Kris and I discussed it at length and felt the following rules would help keep them safe.

Caravanning if done right can be a lot of fun. There is nothing like watching 10+ Subaru’s doing synchronized driving! People have to realize that caravanning is a different then normal driving and most people have little experience on how to do it well. I don’t claim to be the best driver in the world, I only claim to be more experienced than most of the people in NESIC because I have been driving longer. I have seen the effects of stupid drivers and don’t want any of us to end up in the hospital or on the side of the trying to explain your way out of a ticket.

We’ve put together these rules & procedures, not just to avoid tickets, but for everybody's safety. Anybody who fails to follow the rules & procedures, won’t be welcome in the club, period. I do NOT want to explain to anyone's wife/husband how somebody was passing him/her and messed up and spun him/her into the guardrail!

IT CAN’T HAPPEN TO ME?
If you drive past your skill level you can and will get hurt and possibly hurt someone else. Don’t believe me, check out the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagYDg-_XA

PRE-FLIGHT CHECK
Before getting in your cars get everybody together and go over directions, buddies, and assign a lead and trailer car. Take off before this and you might as well keep going, nobody is going to drive with you.

DIRECTIONS
Everyone should have printed directions on where people are headed that day. Don’t have any?, ask for some, one of the club members will have extras. (Somebody bring extras!)

WALKIE TALKIES & BUDDIES
Get yourself a FRS radio! You'll thank yourself after getting one. Those that don't have a radio will be assigned to someone (your buddy) that has a radio. Your will be attached at hip to your buddy. If you intentionally ditch your buddy, read the bolded part above again. You buddy will keep and eye on you and make sure you don't get lost, etc. If for any reason you encounter a problem: out of gas, caravan going to fast for you in the rain, etc., get your buddies attention by flashing your headlights quickly twice. He’ll radio everybody else to possibly slow the caravan down, exit for gas, etc.

LANE CHANGES
Use your blinkers, they were put on the car for a reason! Do NOT make abrupt lane changes! Having 5+ cars change lanes at the same time WILL scare people and possibly cause them to freak and possibly even cause collisions. Lane changes done incorrectly will only attract attention to your caravan and get you pulled over.

LEAD & TRAILER CARS
Assign a lead and trailer car that will be giving instructions out to people about cops spotted, cars coming up fast from behind, directions, etc. Think of them as safety officers and listen to them. We ask that you try to stay between them. Because of traffic, etc. it may not always be possible.

THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND
When following in a pack, it is nice to all be in a row - a few car lengths apart, traveling at a "safe" speed for the weather, and traffic conditions. REALIZE that people will cut into the pack, slow it down, and mix it up. Don't get mad, don't get revenge, just give people room to move around.

Most of us generally drive 5-9MPH above posted speed limits for the highway depending on weather & traffic conditions. Try to stay NO CLOSER then 4 or 5 car lengths behind people, and STAY ALERT. The last thing we want is a 10 Impreza pile-up.

You may feel comfortable driving 90MPH down the highway passing other cars on the right etc. but REMEMBER - You are with a group of people. If you drive like a moron you will only encourage the guy behind you to do the same. Set an example and drive safe.

How you drive when you are not caravanning is your own business. However, when you are caravanning with the NESIC, you WILL follow these rules and procedures or you won’t be part of the NESIC. As Kris always says: Speed Safely.

- Ken
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Old 06-10-2003, 11:52 AM   #2
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Bizzump, with the big caravans we will have shortly.

For my part, if things get wierd at all, I'm "hot pitting" at the nearest exit. I'll have my kid in the car most likely.
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:11 PM   #3
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I will dig up my FRS radio
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:13 PM   #4
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man, I wonder who this "kpratte" is?

So, think about the other people in your carvan and don't drive stupid and things will be good.

- Ken
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:15 PM   #5
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Thumbs up I'll be the guy...

... wearing his helmet on the way up to NED.

The only FRS I have is mounted in my helmet for motorcycle riding...
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:21 PM   #6
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I have an extra so you dont have to wear a helmet
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:27 PM   #7
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I can speak as one of those who's been part of the reason a caravan has gone bad (ref: MFR 2002), follow these rules -- you don't want to have to wait for your car to get out of the body shop because you were following too closely.

/Andrew
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Old 05-18-2004, 04:24 PM   #8
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Bump^ for NED next month.
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Old 05-18-2004, 04:27 PM   #9
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good call

speed safely

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Old 05-18-2004, 08:17 PM   #10
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Cool! Do you mind if I swipe this for my Miata club? We end up caravanning a lot over the summer months. It's always a good idea to remind people how to drive with a group. We have found that CB radios work well if people don't have FRS radios, and the signal seems to be stronger on the highways. Plus as an added bonus you can listen to the truckers as they spot speed-traps on the road.
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:19 PM   #11
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good call

speed safely

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couldn't have said it better
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Old 05-18-2004, 09:20 PM   #12
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There's rules for this stuff??

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Old 05-19-2005, 03:36 PM   #13
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bump for WBM 05
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:40 PM   #14
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Thanks for the bump. I added it to the "sticky".
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:30 AM   #15
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Ok ' I have read the rules and I know that i can't behave, BUT masterlock I'd like to know what u did to turn a 13.2! Unfortunatly I have Cam 2 instead of blood in my veins, so I won't put anybody else at risk.Hope to see you at Nasoba, my reg # is 10VK30, I'm the old guy with not much hair and the salt and pepper goetee..with a big smile when you talk about POWER.OH YEAH
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Old 05-19-2006, 12:28 PM   #16
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Old 05-19-2006, 12:42 PM   #17
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:39 PM   #18
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bump because folks should read this.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:29 AM   #19
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:39 PM   #20
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This is something that should be part of a drivers test. Just kidding.
This is a good idea, to put out the and encourage people to read it. Some of the things you mention is the main reason I will travel with only peopl I trust. How often do you hear about caravans getting busted or someone causing a collison due to poor driving.
Most of us can acually drive a car to it's limits and remain in control because we are aware of what we and the car are doing, as well as knowing when it is ok to do so. Then there are those who think they can drive but can't, you now the type. The guy who try's to go from the back of the pack to the front and then realizes that we are taking a exit so he cut's across four lanes of traffic not to mention everone on the road barely missing hitting you.
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:52 PM   #21
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Also things to keep in mind:

Remain calm at all times. If a regular pedestrian car moves into the line or interrupts it, just let it go. I see so many people get angry that they had the 'nerve' to cut the line... let it go.

Give PLENTY of space between you and other cars in the caravan and allow pedestrian cars to move in and out. Be courteous to other drivers.

In groups of 20 or more, create pack leaders for every group of 5, 10 or 15. Maintain a trailing car to pick up stragglers.

If it's a long cruise, pick places to stop for gas and food. Tappan Zee Bridge has a LARGE rest area in the middle of the highway if you're going from New England through New York. It's enormous. In fact I'd suggest people make suggestions on good rest areas to stop for gas throughout the area heading out
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:58 PM   #22
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Quote:
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How often do you hear about caravans getting busted or someone causing a collison due to poor driving.
Once. Waterfest 2001. We became a group of about 40 cars and about 20 of them were douchebags... so our group pulled off the highway and the 20 douchebags all went by us.
20 minutes later, we drive by all of them on the side of the highway pulled over by about 4 cruisers
Then when we got back home, we saw this on the news.
Link to video on YouTube
Dummies
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:45 PM   #23
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Keep in mind.. dont drive through CT.. they hate large groups.. the same with NH, they pull over large groups just under suspision.

But if u weaving and being stupid.. cough VW cough.. then yea, thats not cool or safe.

But i like caravans, like seeing them like being in them, as long as people arent being stupid.


But that vid made me laugh so hard..

Richard Stevens..
BUSTED hahahah
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:50 PM   #24
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Quote:
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Once. Waterfest 2001. We became a group of about 40 cars and about 20 of them were douchebags... so our group pulled off the highway and the 20 douchebags all went by us.
20 minutes later, we drive by all of them on the side of the highway pulled over by about 4 cruisers
Then when we got back home, we saw this on the news.
Link to video on YouTube
Dummies
Or the guys that went to TDC....whoever was in the silver one passing in the breakdown lane....common now...some speed and passing within the appropriate lanes is ok in a small group but passing in the breakdown


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Old 01-23-2007, 03:03 PM   #25
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I don't caravan mainly because I prefer to drive like a retard by myself and not have to wait up for others

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