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Old 07-28-2009, 06:11 PM   #1
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Default 17x9 = death of wheel bearings?

i've done various searches but found bits and pieces, nothing solid though. has anyone had experience with destroying wheel bearings running a 17x9 +30 wheel on our cars? i know camber and fender rolling/pulling will come into play depending on how low i go, which wont be very low.

one vendor was saying that set up is horrible for our cars and i would be replacing my wheel bearings in about 6 months. so i wanted to see if anyone here has experienced that? i really like the concave look of the 9" wheels but if they are going to destroy my bearings, it wont be worth it.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:36 PM   #2
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6 months... who is the vendor.. they are stupid.

Let me go down the list of some of the wheels I've had for you:

18x9.5 +22
17x9 +30
18x9 +35
17x8 +21
18x8 +23
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my car has 60k miles on it. I've driven it with low offset wheels almost since day one of owning the car which was 20k miles and 2 years ago. There is also a load of people with similar setups as mine that have been driving longer than me with no wheel bearing issues. The wheel bearings on our cars will wear a little faster than normal (maybe a few K over the life of the bearings), but having a low offset wheel isnt causing nearly as much stress on the bearings as a car that sees track use. Long story short the 6month thing the vendor told you is a lie.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:47 PM   #3
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thanks for the feedback and wheel size examples grippy. this is exactly why i wanted to run it by the masses.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:20 PM   #4
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Rota makes 17x9" 5x100 with +42...
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:23 PM   #5
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[quote=grippy monkey;27585244] The wheel bearings on our cars will wear a little faster than normal (maybe a few K over the life of the bearings), but having a low offset wheel isnt causing nearly as much stress on the bearings as a car that sees track use. [quote]

this is my thoughts on the matter EXACTLY.

I DON'T have aggressive wheels, hell I run painted stockers for now and steelies in the winter. I DO have 225 width bridgestone RE-01R's and even with the racing (auto-x) I've done, my rear wheel bearings are just now in need of replacing. I have no idea if the previous owner ever did them, I highly doubt it though based on what I've seen maintenance wise so far. Either way, I've gotten 50,000 miles out of my rears with alot of driving with high grip/high load.

I think your driving style and the amount of flogging you do to your car is WAAAAAAY more of a deciding factor in how long your wheel bearings last than how low offset/wide your wheels are.
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:51 PM   #6
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i plan on doing a canyon cruise once or twice a month. other than that, just your average so. cal daily driving.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:38 PM   #7
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I think the ill effects a too low offset wheel has on handling should be more of a concern. But when it's all about looks, I guess it doesn't matter.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:18 AM   #8
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I think the ill effects a too low offset wheel has on handling should be more of a concern. But when it's all about looks, I guess it doesn't matter.
scrub radius matters that much?
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:51 AM   #9
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I think the ill effects a too low offset wheel has on handling should be more of a concern. But when it's all about looks, I guess it doesn't matter.
It really depends... when running alot of camber the ill effects of the scrub radius issue become less of a problem.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:37 AM   #10
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so would 17x9 +38 would be 'safer' than 17x9 +30?
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:41 AM   #11
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^not only 'safer'. but easier to fit. you prob wont have a concaved looks with most rims with +38 so might want to do some research.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:43 AM   #12
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thanks STi-Man. i will look at both versions of the wheel to see if they both are concave.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:04 AM   #13
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STI's and WRX's have different wheel bearings. Us WRX guys have to worry a little more about which wheels we are running, as our wheel bearings are not as durable as the STI's.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:22 PM   #14
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u think 17x9 on the 04 STi hubs for AutoX is too much?
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #15
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u think 17x9 on the 04 STi hubs for AutoX is too much?
When I ran ET38 17x9s and 255s/275 R-comps years ago on my WRX (same hubs as your 04 STi) I had to change front wheel bearings twice a year.

Lots of heat and load don't help the situation, its not the 'fault' of the offset, but its not exactly helping either.

If you are tracking the car, wheel bearings should be in the budget up there with pads and rotors and everything else.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:27 PM   #16
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i autox'd on 17x9 +39 with 255/40/17 re01rs this year as well as daily driving on the same setup with no issues yet.

crawdads - did you think about switching to 5x114.3 after replacing the front bearings twice?
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:31 PM   #17
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i autox'd on 17x9 +39 with 255/40/17 re01rs this year as well as daily driving on the same setup with no issues yet.

crawdads - did you think about switching to 5x114.3 after replacing the front bearings twice?
Yes, I did think about it.

Then I did the sensible thing and replaced the WRX with an STi.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:07 PM   #18
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When I ran ET38 17x9s and 255s/275 R-comps years ago on my WRX (same hubs as your 04 STi) I had to change front wheel bearings twice a year.

Lots of heat and load don't help the situation, its not the 'fault' of the offset, but its not exactly helping either.

If you are tracking the car, wheel bearings should be in the budget up there with pads and rotors and everything else.
I agree with you, but I'm sure the heat and load, like you said, were the real issue with your bearings going out. I would imagine that you also replaced them proactively, not because they failed.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:16 PM   #19
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i autox'd on 17x9 +39 with 255/40/17 re01rs this year as well as daily driving on the same setup with no issues yet.
I just got my bugeye back in Feb, and I've been on 17x9 +38 for a couple months (7 or 8k miles) now. Currently running 255/40-17 T1R and will be sticking with the same size tires when I get new ones in a couple weeks... Good to know you've had no issues

Crawdads, if I'm NOT tracking the car, just DD and some spirited driving...I would imagine I could go quite a bit longer without needing bearing replacements...would you agree?
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