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Old 07-30-2009, 05:45 PM   #1
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Hello! I have an '02 wrx. I'm getting my tires properly rotated at discount tire today. From the manual, it says to
rotate in an 'x' pattern, so that means taking the tires off of the wheels and mounting them on the far corner from their original location. Correct?

I had these rotated a few days ago and they rotated front-to-back. I had to pay 56 bucks to get them to rotate the tires properly, even though it states (in many places that rotation is free if you are a return customer.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:25 PM   #2
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Rotation depends on whether you have directional or non-directional tires mounted on the car. AWD and RWD get rotated the same, FWD is different.

Directional tires are limited to front to back rotation unless you remount the tires to the wheels. Non-directional tires (including asymmetrical tires) follow a rearward X rotation or any alternate rotation you choose to maximize tread wear. High quality non-directional tires compete with the best performing directional tires but offer much more versatility in rotation. That can extend tire tread wear.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...sp?techid=180&

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=43

I buy tires from Tire Rack. The last rotation I had done two weeks ago cost me $28.50 at an independent tire, brake and alignment shop.

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Old 07-31-2009, 09:35 AM   #3
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Some people unmount and remount directional tires if they are getting uneven tread ware to get a proper "X" rotation. Did they do that for you? If not, I can't believe they charge $56 to take off 4 tires and put them back on in different places. You've got a jack and a wrench in the truck, you can do that yourself.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:52 AM   #4
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I have 225/45-17 Dunlop SP Sport 01s.

The description says that these are Assymetric tires.

So does that mean I can do the X pattern and the rearward cross?

(Because the dealership said that I can only do front to rear.)
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:03 AM   #5
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in the real world......

the best bet is to make sure your driving style and alignment and equipement match well

kind of a complicated way of saying that, for longest wear.....you need the right amount of negative camber at both ends and the toe as close to '0' as you can get
negative camber so ya dont eat the outside edges of the tires and '0' toe so ya dont eat the inside edges of the tires


and rotate the tires every oil change or 5k miles, whichever comes first
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:40 AM   #6
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in the real world......

the best bet is to make sure your driving style and alignment and equipement match well

kind of a complicated way of saying that, for longest wear.....you need the right amount of negative camber at both ends and the toe as close to '0' as you can get
negative camber so ya dont eat the outside edges of the tires and '0' toe so ya dont eat the inside edges of the tires


and rotate the tires every oil change or 5k miles, whichever comes first
Great info!
I rotate my tires every 3000 miles.
I noticed that I wear out the tires on the drivers side front and rear more than I wear out the passenger's side front and rear.

I'm guessing the reason for that is I make a lot of fast right turns in the morning going to work and less casual slow left turns in the afternoon coming home.

Another thing that I noticed is that most of the highway exits I make have fast right turns and slow left turns.

It just ticks me off that the dealer would recommend rotating wheels by using front to back and vice versa when the tires are assymetrical.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:37 AM   #7
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I remember reading some statistic that 90% of turns drivers make are right handed turns.
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