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Old 08-03-2009, 09:23 AM   #1
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Default Winter Tires Required for 09 WRX?

I know it's early, but I need to save pennies after my new purchase. I live in NH, have been driving for 20 years and have never needed snow tires in the past, but from what I hear I will for my new car. Simple yes or no would be fine.

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Old 08-03-2009, 09:28 AM   #2
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Technically the 09 WRX comes with SUMMER tires, not all season's like in the past, so that's why they recommend getting winter tires.

That being said, I would at least TRY to drive them in the snow, you DO have AWD, I just wouldn't try to take any turns in the snow with it.

Let's put it this way, I think you'll enjoy your WRX much more in the snow if you have the appropriate tires for it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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I think snow tires in NH will be money well spent.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:32 AM   #4
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I would recommend not trying to drive with them in the snow. Just from the colder weather alone, the tires get extremely hard and don't grip worth a crap. What I did was just get the 16" winter tire package from tirerack.com. I got cheap, $75/tire Winterforces (which are relatively aggressive and last a long time) and steel rims (without the tire monitors). Shipped to my door, they were $620.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:36 AM   #5
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I'll be purchasing a 09 WRX soon and after test driving the car and checking out the rubber I'd say steelies and some winter tires are a must. I tried summer tires in the winter once, not fun.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:42 AM   #6
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Technically the 09 WRX comes with SUMMER tires, not all season's like in the past, so that's why they recommend getting winter tires.

That being said, I would at least TRY to drive them in the snow, you DO have AWD, I just wouldn't try to take any turns in the snow with it.

Let's put it this way, I think you'll enjoy your WRX much more in the snow if you have the appropriate tires for it.
do not try and drive those tires below 40-45 degrees
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:47 AM   #7
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In fact, Dunlop even says not to.

And BTW, it's not just turning in the snow, but stopping too. I'm pretty sure accelerating isn't going to be the easiest.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:00 AM   #8
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Simple yes or no, eh?. Not possible.

Arguments for having winter tires:


1. You're tires should be suited for the worst possible conditions you plan on driving in. In summer that means slicks are fine if you never intend to drive in the rain, but if you do intend to drive in the rain grooved tires are best. If you never intend to drive on gravel summer tarmac tires are okay, but if you do plan on driving on gravel you may need something with a bit more bite. If you plan on driving in snowy or ice conditions you should have tires that are suitable for snow and ice.

2. All-seasons are fine for light snow, but in icy conditions or heavy snow you'll want to stay off the road. With good winter tires you'll be safer a lot more of the time.

3. Using winter tires on a sunny warm winter day is a lot less dangerous and annoying than using all-seasons on a bad day.

4. Using winter tires in winter and summer tires in summer gives you great performance all year round. Using all-seasons all year gives you mediocre performance all year round.

5. Having two sets of tires is not that much more expensive than having all-seasons because you'll go through the all-seasons twice as fast. Over four or five years you'll either use one set of winters and one set of summers, or two sets of all-seasons.

6. AWD lets you get moving in just about any conditions, however an AWD car cannot stop any quicker than a FWD car. In an FWD car you know how slippery it is out because it took you thirty seconds of wheel spinning just to get up to 20 mph. In an AWD car you may not realize how slippery it is until you try to stop.

7. Having AWD with tires that can't take full advantage of the AWD is a waste of money. You should have bought a Mazda.


Arguments for not having winter tires:

1. I live someplace where it rarely ever snows, and when it does snow I stay off the roads.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:04 AM   #9
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Yes winter or decent in winter all-season tires are required to drive around in the winter season in winter conditions(ice/snow/slush/sleet) in NH.

I have only owned one set of winter of tires in NH when I had summer tires on a VW Jetta GLI. It is scary in really slippery conditions with summer tires. Winter tires are superior during those limited times you actually need them.

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Old 08-03-2009, 10:17 AM   #10
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I know it's early, but I need to save pennies after my new purchase. I live in NH, have been driving for 20 years and have never needed snow tires in the past, but from what I hear I will for my new car. Simple yes or no would be fine.

Thoughts?

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Heath
...would not thouroughly answer your question.

20 years in the snow (in NH) is a long time but how important is your car to you in your day to day existence? It only takes once to go sliding into a curb, or something more ominous, to wish you had a set of winters. Like it has been mentioned, the stockers suck in the snow.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:33 AM   #11
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I drove this past winter in my 09 wrx with the summer tires on. Honestly the traction wasn;t too bad but stoping was terrible. I also took it easy but i did drive in snow up to 4 inches and through 2 bad ice storms we had. Also it drove way more then a rwd car as well which is expected. I was laid off right after i got my car so i couldn;t afford winter tires like i was planning on buying. As soon as tirerack gets the tires i want back in stock i;m gonna be placing an order.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:33 AM   #12
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...would not thouroughly answer your question.

20 years in the snow (in NH) is a long time but how important is your car to you in your day to day existence? It only takes once to go sliding into a curb, or something more ominous, to wish you had a set of winters. Like it has been mentioned, the stockers suck in the snow.
You are absolutely right about one time being all I need to kill myself. Sounds like winter tires will not only be safer, but they will save my nice sticky (spendy) summer tires for when they matter most, summer cruising.

Thanks all, off to look into replacing my junk stereo!
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:44 AM   #13
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...would not thouroughly answer your question.

If he wants to drive the car in the winter, he's going to need winter tires. The stock summer tires aren't even applicable.
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Old 08-03-2009, 01:00 PM   #14
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I know it's early, but I need to save pennies after my new purchase. I live in NH, have been driving for 20 years and have never needed snow tires in the past, but from what I hear I will for my new car. Simple yes or no would be fine.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Heath
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you WILL NEED 'winter' tires

'summer' tires in winter are an invite to your insurance company to write you a check and you to be
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:49 PM   #15
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A cheaper alternative would be to buy a good set of 4 seasons (say, continental ContiXtreme) and sell your summer ones. It will still be worse than winter tires (which i advice for strongly) BUT better than what you have now.
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:32 PM   #16
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If you are going to drive the car in the snow than yes, you need winter tires (for your and anyone else that's on the road sake).

4 almost brand new blizzaks on CL $200
4 stock rims on NASIOC $200

It doesn't have to be expensive. Start looking around now and you'll find a deal by winter for sure.

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Old 08-03-2009, 10:34 PM   #17
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A WRX on good winter tires makes the car a whole lot safer and FUN in the snow and ice. My biggest mistake with my old one was waiting 3 years before I actually purchased a set and getting by with "all(no) seasons".
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If he wants to drive the car in the winter, he's going to need winter tires. The stock summer tires aren't even applicable.
If you actually read what I highlighted and quoted, I said a simple yes or no, in fact, would not answer his question.

Reading comprehension > you
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:44 PM   #19
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Do any of the dealerships in snowy regions suggest to customers to purchases snow tires when purchasing a WRX or STi?

It would seem like a smart idea to do so and then sell them a winter rim/tire setup at the same time. I am actually surprised they sell the WRX with summer only tires now, but I guess they wanted better reviews in the car magazines that always complained about the RE92s.

I got caught in a random snow squall with my summer tire last year. I was actually driving from the gym back to the house to put my snow tires on. The car could not stop or turn to save it self. It was very scary. Luckily the drive was only like 3 miles, but that's all it takes.
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