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Old 08-06-2009, 03:15 PM   #1
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Back In JAN. of 09 I had a set of (4) BFG Gforce Super Sport All seasons put on my '06 wrx. After 3,000 miles I noticed the inner tread block of the front tires was wearing poorly so..

I then had the car aligned by a VERY rep. local shop. (NO Names not bashing). The tires now have 20,000 miles or so the and rotated twice in that time.

yesterday I changed my gear oil in the tranny and rear diff. and noticed that the inner tread blocks of the set in question are now slick. the rest of the tire is fine. I know it is very difficult to get a tire to stop wearing once it starts but wow.

so I now wonder what should I do?

-get those two tires remounted so the block is on the outside (will this help)?
-get 2 new tires (which I think my AWD will HATE) thanks Subaru
-Spend too much money on 4 and start over.

$700.00 runined in 20,000 miles no track at all and got aligned when i got the tires...this sucks


p.s im poor lol aren't we all

oh and I got 65,000 miles out of my RE92's and 80,000 out of my brakes
that may tell you how I drive.

thanks for any input.


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Old 08-06-2009, 03:17 PM   #2
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Post up the printout of the alignment specs.
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:20 PM   #3
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Got to find it... please hold
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:31 PM   #4
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:34 PM   #5
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I feel your pain -ruined two new front tires in 7k miles. Learned the hard way.

Now, I'm rotating every 2k and getting an alignment done every other oil change.
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:38 PM   #6
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ouch 100.00 every other oil change
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:43 PM   #7
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Back In JAN. of 09 I had a set of (4) BFG Gforce Super Sport All seasons put on my '06 wrx. After 3,000 miles I noticed the inner tread block of the front tires was wearing poorly so..

I then had the car aligned by a VERY rep. local shop. (NO Names not bashing). The tires now have 20,000 miles or so the and rotated twice in that time.

yesterday I changed my gear oil in the tranny and rear diff. and noticed that the inner tread blocks of the set in question are now slick. the rest of the tire is fine. I know it is very difficult to get a tire to stop wearing once it starts but wow.

so I now wonder what should I do?

-get those two tires remounted so the block is on the outside (will this help)?
-get 2 new tires (which I think my AWD will HATE) thanks Subaru
-Spend too much money on 4 and start over.

$700.00 runined in 20,000 miles no track at all and got aligned when i got the tires...this sucks


p.s im poor lol aren't we all

oh and I got 65,000 miles out of my RE92's and 80,000 out of my brakes
that may tell you how I drive.

thanks for any input.


-Chip

you need an alignment that has the toe set to '0'

not almost '0' or maybe '0' or 'in the green'


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Now, I'm rotating every 2k and getting an alignment done every other oil change.
pointless

just get the toe set to '0'
and rotate evey oil change
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:46 PM   #9
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thanks
that didnt kill the tires

and id bet that that isnt the actual alignment

and you need more negative front camber
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:32 PM   #10
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that didnt kill the tires

and id bet that that isnt the actual alignment

and you need more negative front camber
I concur. What kills the inner tread blocks more than anything else is too much front toe. Combined with the proper front camber, you end up just grinding away the inner tread.

The alignment settings on your sheet would not cause such drastic premature wear. I find it hard to believe that zero toe (0.00, according to the sheet) and -0.7 degrees camber resulted in noticeable wear in 3,000 miles. Something smells fishy.

Just as Uncle Scotty suggests, as much front camber as you can get with the stock hardware (usually 1.5 degrees or so) will help the front end grip in corners, without sacrificing much tire wear.

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Old 08-07-2009, 12:05 AM   #11
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thanks for all the input guys.

thats the only alignment the car has ever had. it got lowered on prodrives, new tires, and aligned all in Jan '09.

I was told that it was as close to zero "as they could get it and that it wasnt a prob."


Im taking the car up in 2 weeks to get the alignment checked. maybe somthing moved or i hit too many potholes. (im going away, not in my car lol. this coming week)


But yes nothing "fishy". I gain nothing by lying to you guys lol. the tires were showing abnormal wear at 3000 miles but after 20,000 the tread block is gone. ill try to post pics of the tires themselves.



thanks again

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Old 08-07-2009, 12:08 AM   #12
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any sugg. on where to take the car. who does great alignments??
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:51 AM   #13
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The fact that the place you took it too was able to get 0.00 toe all around shows that at least they pay some attention to detail, its worth going back if you like them. Almost 100% of shops will try to talk you out of getting camber so I wouldn't blame them for not giving you a lot.

BTW how much tread is left? You could always take the tires to a shop and have them remounted on the other side so that the worn part is on the outside.
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get the tires remounted so that the inner shoulder becomes the outer shoulder
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