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Old 08-07-2009, 12:07 AM   #1
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Default Winter Tires... that work in summer. or vice versa

hi,
I have a 02 WRX wagon and I need tire advice. I live in So Cal but will be in Utah for the winter.
So my question is this... are there any winter specific tires that work well all year? or are there any all terrain/all season tires that work particularly well in winter?

I'd like to get away with keeping the same tires on all year, but good traction in the snow is a necessity, as I'll be driving up the mountain to snowboard daily.

Also what size would you recommend? The wheels I will be putting them on are 17x7.5.

Any help would be appreciated, especially from those with experience with snow tires.

Thanks and feel free to move this to the noob forum.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:33 AM   #2
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Winter tires won't work very well in Summer & Summer tires won't work well in Winter. That leaves you with a couple options.

1) Run All-Season tires. All-Season tires can last a really long time and can be pretty decent performance. However they are a Jack-of-All-Trades type tire. They do a lot of things well, but can always be bested by True Summer or True Winter tires depending on what driving condition you are looking at.

2) Get a cheap set of wheels and then run a set of winter tires on one set and a set of summer tires on the other set (probably your 17x7.5's).

Now, that being said. There are a few All-Season Tires that are pretty good, but it depends on your budget.

Bridgestone RE960AS Pole Positions
Continental ExtermeContact DWS (these are new to the category)
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus
Pirelli PZero Nero A/S

There are based on a 225/45/17 tire size though. You could also go with a 205/50/17 and that would open up the Kumho ASX as an option.



BTW - You might be interested in this.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1812193

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Old 08-07-2009, 12:35 AM   #3
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Continental ContiExtremeContact if you want something speed rated and performance oriented.
Goodyear Assurance TripleTred is practically a snow tread but still a year round all season. Note it's lower speed rated than stock.

Or accept the best answer is to buy two sets.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:53 AM   #4
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nokian wr or wrg2
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:35 AM   #5
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nokian wr or wrg2
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:00 AM   #6
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nokian wr or wrg2
Awesome tires for both.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:17 AM   #8
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I really like the RE960 .. .the jury is still out on the new Continental and the new Pirelli
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:46 PM   #9
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Problem with Nokian is that you can get almost two sets of tires for 1 set of Nokians.

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Old 08-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #10
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I love my RE960AS's for an all season tire. I've driven most of the higher performance summer tires, a few sets of winter tires, and quite a few sets of all season tires and the 960's seem like the best compromise I've found so far.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:34 PM   #11
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just know this. If you are driving up to the hill and its snowing in utah, they have checkpoints and will not let you up unless you have snowtires. Get a dedicated snow tire, you wont regret it. I use to live in sandy and drive up the hill every day.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:25 AM   #12
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i say bfgoodrich super sport A/S
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:59 AM   #13
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Problem with Nokian is that you can get almost two sets of tires for 1 set of Nokians.

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But the Nokian WRs you get 2 tires in one. A Snow rated tire that you can drive on all year.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:59 AM   #14
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And for less money per mile, you get two sets that handle beautifully all year.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:13 PM   #15
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I ran the Nokian WR's and loved them. Handled great. Probubly the best tire I ever owned. Lasted a really long time with hard driving. I'm talking 30K. Really hard to come buy in SoCal. I have asked around.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:55 PM   #16
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And then you can have the pleasure of hitting a nail and not being able to drive for 3 weeks while you get a replacement...
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Continental ContiExtremeContact if you want something speed rated and performance oriented.
Goodyear Assurance TripleTred is practically a snow tread but still a year round all season. Note it's lower speed rated than stock.

Or accept the best answer is to buy two sets.

I like my ContiExtremeContacts and they aren't badly priced
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Problem with Nokian is that you can get almost two sets of tires for 1 set of Nokians.

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problem isnt that you can drive them all year long and thus dont need 2 sets
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And then you can have the pleasure of hitting a nail and not being able to drive for 3 weeks while you get a replacement...
some people are much smarter than this
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:12 PM   #20
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And then you can have the pleasure of hitting a nail and not being able to drive for 3 weeks while you get a replacement...
Your right! That's why I run a winter/summer set, so on the off chance I happen to hit a nail, while my spare tire is flat, my hands are broken, and my lug wrench is on my big wheel, I have a fresh tire on rim waiting for it..... at home in my garage.

You are grasping at straws my man.

Reality is, on this technical discussion, they are great tires, and worth the money to those who have ridden on them, who don't have a spot or desire to have two sets around.
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Wait wait, so you're telling him to use them year round but your solution to the problem is having 2 sets? Does not compute!

You have a spare in the trunk, but it's good for 50 miles max.
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I like my ContiExtremeContacts and they aren't badly priced
yup, +2
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I ran a couple sets of WRs. I'm on LM-25s now, and I do prefer them in most regards over the WR. I know there's a lot of Nokian love, but Bridgestone makes damn fine tires. The LM-25 is a competent winter tire that performs well in snow and ice and as well as a good all-season on dry and in the summer. The LM-25 seems to wear a bit better then the WR too. It's a good tire even when it's 90F outside.
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I love my LM-25s but they are SO greasy when it gets warm. I couldn't live with them >60 degrees for very long.
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Wait wait, so you're telling him to use them year round but your solution to the problem is having 2 sets? Does not compute!

You have a spare in the trunk, but it's good for 50 miles max.
Nope, I'm saying the WR's are a good year round tire. I think the $$ objection is a little erroneous. The OP is avoiding 2 sets, so the WR is a good choice for the list. The LM-25's you guys are running are great tires too though, but I think I would prefer a WR in the warmer weather half of driving, so it gets the win for me.

In all reality I don't see a good replacement for 2 dedicated sets, but you have to do what you have to do if you don't have the space.
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