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Old 08-19-2012, 07:37 PM   #676
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Sounds like I'll be trying Nightshades and Krylon, thanks cianuro!

I'll be putting extra clear on this time too!
No prob. I sanded the clear only with 1500 grit and polished with turtle wax polishing compund, the semi-liquid one, not the paste. Put up some pics when ur done.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:48 PM   #677
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You used the Krylon right, not clear lacquer?

It might be a little while until I get time, but I'll post an update. BTW, what are you guys using to remove the old stuff?
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:44 AM   #678
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The process for a 2010 hatchback should be the exact same, right? I just went to michaels, joannes fabric, home depot and walmart and none of them had that krylon transparent red. Had to end up ordering off some site and paying S&H. Guess I'll have to wait a week to try this out...
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:51 AM   #679
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I don't understand why you are all using that ****, go to autozone, get VHT niteshades red. It's actually made for this, it won't fade and looks way better
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #680
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because they are reading the first post
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:47 AM   #681
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because they are reading the first post
What he said
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:01 PM   #682
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Because I wasn't aware of every product that VHT makes?
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:11 PM   #683
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Any thoughts on what the best removal methods are? I don't want to ruin the plastic.

Thanks guys!
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:17 PM   #684
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3m adhesive remover kind of works

brake clean will get it off fast but you have to be super careful, if you spray it on the light directly the plastic will crack. If you put it on a cloth first u can do it but the plastic will need to be sanded when you are done

maybe lacquer thinner?
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:24 PM   #685
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Any thoughts on what the best removal methods are? I don't want to ruin the plastic.

Thanks guys!
Try pure acetone. It evaporates quickly and dilutes paints. It leaves a bit of a residue, so have a wet cloth nearby to wipe it off. Try it on corners first so you can have a look at how well it will remove the paint and know how much you'll need to apply.

Paint thinner is a bit strong, so I suggest starting with mineral spirits first.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:15 AM   #686
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Getting prepared to do this tomorrow. Has anyone came up with step by step removing the tails and 3rd brake light? Much appreciated!
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:15 PM   #687
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some of us were thinking about petitioning a company to make aftermarket red tails

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9#post37955379

As far as removing the tails its pretty easy

outer lights are just 2 10mm bolts and pulling

for the reverse lights you pull the top piece of piece of plastic off the inside of the hatch first, then the sides and then you pull the large middle piece off (I think you need to pop the bottom off first and then pull up a bit to get it out of the window area). not sure about the 3rd brake light. Enjoy your fading and new rattles
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:01 PM   #688
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Yea the process was very easy actually. I'm done painting hoping the masking went well. Left it on during the clear. My main question is. How long to wait before wet sanding and waxing? Hour, 2? Overnight?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #689
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i think a few days actually
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:15 PM   #690
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i think a few days actually
Wow. So just put em on temp for use then take off for wetsand?
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it should say on the can of paint you used actually

i think a few days was for waxing, not sure about wetsanding
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:19 PM   #692
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it should say on the can of paint you used actually

i think a few days was for waxing, not sure about wetsanding
Ty sir
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:49 PM   #693
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some of us were thinking about petitioning a company to make aftermarket red tails

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9#post37955379

As far as removing the tails its pretty easy

outer lights are just 2 10mm bolts and pulling

for the reverse lights you pull the top piece of piece of plastic off the inside of the hatch first, then the sides and then you pull the large middle piece off (I think you need to pop the bottom off first and then pull up a bit to get it out of the window area). not sure about the 3rd brake light. Enjoy your fading and new rattles
This would've been a good idea at about a year or 2 after the car came out, but it's been 4 years.

Yes, when the car gets older, and the lights start looking crappy, some people might think it would be a good idea to replace them. This DIY, although it will take a bit more than just $10 if you want to do it right, might be the better option still. Replacement tails tend to crap out a lot earlier than oem lights, and costs could be in the $150's, not to mention the questionable quality of some aftermarket LED's and the way they're wired...

I'm happy with the results from this DIY. Companies look at demand, and threads like this one will kill that demand based on costs alone.

If it was me, I would make a mold of the tail, make an acrylic red overlay through vacuum forming, and it still would be a lot cheaper, quicker and easier than having a company redesign a whole taillight based on just changing the color of the oem one. But, I already painted them, so there's no point on even trying it...
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:55 PM   #694
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if you use the method from this thread it fades after 1 year and every time you redo them your tails get worse. the quality of replacements is a major concern though. I don't think the timing is a problem, there are a lot more hatch owners now then there were 3 years ago. Also 2013 and possibly 2014 WRXs and STIs are keeping the same body style.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:09 PM   #695
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Yea the process was very easy actually. I'm done painting hoping the masking went well. Left it on during the clear. My main question is. How long to wait before wet sanding and waxing? Hour, 2? Overnight?
If you applied thick coats of clear, you might want to wait a few days... If you gave it several medium or light coats, i.e. 5-7, overnight should be enough, which is how I did mine.

To be sure, wait a full day. Press your finger with a microfiber cloth against a corner. If you see an imprint of the cloth, your clear is not fully cured. You can still wetsand it with 1500 or 2000, but be sure not to apply pressure when sanding or polishing.

All you need to get from sanding is a dull finish. The less porous it looks, the better. If you wetsand and can still see small glossy dots on the coat, you might not achieve a completely smooth mirror finish.

The polishing compound is abrasive enough that you can do faster side to side swipes rather than pressing against the coat surface to achieve a mirror finish. The polishing compound will dry as you apply it, so just continue applying it until most of it dissapears in the area you're applying it. A bit of pressure will be required as it dries, just don't overdo it. Wipe off any excess residue and continue with another section.

Also, remember that you're actually rubbing down the clear coat when you polish it. Take this into account when polishing as you might reach the red coat if you did not apply enough clear.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:04 PM   #696
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if you use the method from this thread it fades after 1 year and every time you redo them your tails get worse. the quality of replacements is a major concern though. I don't think the timing is a problem, there are a lot more hatch owners now then there were 3 years ago. Also 2013 and possibly 2014 WRXs and STIs are keeping the same body style.
Like I said, it'll be a bit more than $10 to do it right. Mine have been painted for some time close to a year and they still look the same.

As for the timing, you're right. People still buy heads and tails for 2000ish rides.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:06 PM   #697
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I don't see why people who already own the cars wouldn't buy them...
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:14 PM   #698
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If you applied thick coats of clear, you might want to wait a few days... If you gave it several medium or light coats, i.e. 5-7, overnight should be enough, which is how I did mine.

To be sure, wait a full day. Press your finger with a microfiber cloth against a corner. If you see an imprint of the cloth, your clear is not fully cured. You can still wetsand it with 1500 or 2000, but be sure not to apply pressure when sanding or polishing.

All you need to get from sanding is a dull finish. The less porous it looks, the better. If you wetsand and can still see small glossy dots on the coat, you might not achieve a completely smooth mirror finish.

The polishing compound is abrasive enough that you can do faster side to side swipes rather than pressing against the coat surface to achieve a mirror finish. The polishing compound will dry as you apply it, so just continue applying it until most of it dissapears in the area you're applying it. A bit of pressure will be required as it dries, just don't overdo it. Wipe off any excess residue and continue with another section.

Also, remember that you're actually rubbing down the clear coat when you polish it. Take this into account when polishing as you might reach the red coat if you did not apply enough clear.
Yea I have no choice but to either put these back on the car and let them continue to dry or to wet sand and polish them in the morning. Would it be ok for them to be on the car and out and about before wet sanding and waxing them? Have to use the car tomorrow to go to a concert and have no choice but to put them back on tomorrow mid day. Now whether I finish them in the morning or when I get home is up to you guys!

Thanks for the help Btw I put 3 medium coats of clear on after 3 medium coats of VHT's Red.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:53 AM   #699
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Yea I have no choice but to either put these back on the car and let them continue to dry or to wet sand and polish them in the morning. Would it be ok for them to be on the car and out and about before wet sanding and waxing them? Have to use the car tomorrow to go to a concert and have no choice but to put them back on tomorrow mid day. Now whether I finish them in the morning or when I get home is up to you guys!

Thanks for the help Btw I put 3 medium coats of clear on after 3 medium coats of VHT's Red.
bump for answer!?

sand and wax/polish or put em on and do it when i get home tonight?

edit - AND NOW I just looked at the radar and I will def probably be in some rain today....would that be ok if left alone to wet sand tonight? I would assume water should be ok...

oh and btw...you don't have a disconnect on the 2012 hatch 3rd brake light. I had to tape it up with some trash bags and just paint it while connected to the car....

Edit #2...well I am taking the chance assuming the lights should be fine in the rain considering the clear is dry from overnight...anyways here is a pic before any finishing


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Old 09-02-2012, 02:22 PM   #700
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^ If it hasn't changed since my 09 then yes you can remove the entire 3rd brake light in the spoiler. You have to take off the interior hatch trim and then remove the spoiler to get it out though.
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