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Old 08-09-2009, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default deadbolt monster TD04 or BLOUCH 19t td04 for 2.0 wrx

i want to juice my 2002 wrx with a little more power. i know deadbolt isnt around anymore but there turbos still lurk. so the wuestion is do i get a TD04. PnP housings Upgraded Compressor wheel and Clipped turbine wheel or do i get the tdo4 19t upgrade from blouch. looking for the most power more efficient and well rounded turbo on the 2.0. the above two is what i want to stay around because they are both cheap. chime in if you know info or own one. post results if you can. thanks
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:18 PM   #2
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:25 PM   #3
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Between the two I would get the Blouch 19T. But if I was gonna spend that amount of money, I would get the Blouch Standard 16G. You'll have to do the fuel pump and injectors, some kind of boost controller and a tune no matter which route you go. Good Luck. I've ridden in both and I believe the 16G is more worth the money.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:15 PM   #4
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i want to juice my 2002 wrx with a little more power. i know deadbolt isnt around anymore but there turbos still lurk. so the wuestion is do i get a TD04. PnP housings Upgraded Compressor wheel and Clipped turbine wheel or do i get the tdo4 19t upgrade from blouch. looking for the most power more efficient and well rounded turbo on the 2.0. the above two is what i want to stay around because they are both cheap. chime in if you know info or own one. post results if you can. thanks

that's exactly what the 19t is...
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:32 PM   #5
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why is the 16g worth it more? because it has more top end? my question is can the 16g spool as quick as the 19t?
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:13 PM   #6
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why is the 16g worth it more? because it has more top end? my question is can the 16g spool as quick as the 19t?
Given the same configuration except for the turbo a TD04 will always outspool a TD05.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:23 PM   #7
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fp green hta ftw
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:13 PM   #8
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that's exactly what the 19t is...
So the compressor wheel on the Deadbolt Monster TD04 is a 19t? I've been curious about that for some time. Deadbolts old website doesn't clarify.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:02 PM   #9
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i thought there monster TDO4 was just pnp.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:12 PM   #10
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i thought there monster TDO4 was just pnp.
Yes, but they did offer a compressor wheel upgrade and clipped turbine blades as options. I'm not sure of the wheel size though...
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:58 PM   #11
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So the compressor wheel on the Deadbolt Monster TD04 is a 19t? I've been curious about that for some time. Deadbolts old website doesn't clarify.

The standard "monster td04" was ported and polished like crazy, and had turbine clipping or compressor upgrading as available options- but the porting was all that was standard.


The Blouch unit is just a rebuilt td04 with the upgraded compressor wheel and an "extreme duty thrust bearing". Also, Mike at Blouch has told me over the phone that Deadbolt's "monster" or "zilla" porting was more marketing than actual performance enhancer.

Blouch also has brand spankin' new 16g's on sale for $649 right now, btw. That's a pretty good price for the performance.

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Old 08-10-2009, 06:11 PM   #12
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so everyone seems like the blouch is more efficient and will produce the most power. .
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:48 PM   #13
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Also, Mike at Blouch has told me over the phone that Deadbolt's "monster" or "zilla" porting was more marketing than actual performance enhancer.
Right and that is why Blouch offers optional porting for $95. So is that just for marketing too? Porting turbos does work,just like porting heads or exhaust manifolds works..................
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:09 PM   #14
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I think the idea was that there was nothing special about Deadbolt's porting versus any standard porting...
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:31 PM   #15
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Its marketing what can you say.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:56 PM   #16
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So which way is better deadbolt zila or Blouch 19t?, and if I go from stage 2 to 19t I am gona need injectors, protune, and do I need bigger intercooler?
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:56 AM   #17
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deadbolt monster td04 will spool faster since its just a pnp td04..blouch 19t will get you more compressore due to the compressor upgrade however you will spool a tad slower..deadbolt td04 you can just bolt on..blouch 19t you need injectors and a protune
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:26 PM   #18
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Definitely go 16G. Or VF34. You wont be happy with the small jump in power on those tiny guys for going to the trouble of changing turbo's!
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Old 09-20-2009, 03:35 PM   #19
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EVO III 16g. Just bought mine, cannot wait to get it tuned. Read up on it, best 2.0 turbo...this is backed by mods and many tuners
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Old 09-20-2009, 03:51 PM   #20
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what about the hta68. from what ive heard better spool and more power than a 16g
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:54 PM   #21
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On a 2.5...2.0 they spool much too late

All the comparisons have been done at a 2.5.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:05 AM   #22
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why is the 16g worth it more? because it has more top end? my question is can the 16g spool as quick as the 19t?
i just swapped a small 16g for a 19t.with a mbc the 16g hit full boost at 3700 and the 19t does it at 2700.theres no waiting for boost on the 19t.on the 16g it held 20 psi to redline.the 19t dips to 17 past 6400 but you wouldnt know it.ill be tracking my car next week and show some results here.im an advocate for the 19t because its the best driving experience youll get on the 2.0.the power is always there.waiting for power sucks.i went from 16g to stage2 to 19t.it was the right move for me
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:17 AM   #23
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i'm posting here to see your results later...i've been doing some turbo browsing as well
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:28 AM   #24
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I agree boost comes in late with the hta68 but man does it pull hard I love mine
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i just swapped a small 16g for a 19t.with a mbc the 16g hit full boost at 3700 and the 19t does it at 2700.theres no waiting for boost on the 19t.on the 16g it held 20 psi to redline.the 19t dips to 17 past 6400 but you wouldnt know it.ill be tracking my car next week and show some results here.im an advocate for the 19t because its the best driving experience youll get on the 2.0.the power is always there.waiting for power sucks.i went from 16g to stage2 to 19t.it was the right move for me
waiting for your update..im stage 2 right now and thinking of going 19t just caus i want a fun daily driver and something that spools as soon as you step on it
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