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Old 08-11-2009, 12:10 PM   #1
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I picked up a 120 Gb Ipod over the weekend. Now, before I dive right in and start organizing music I would like some advice. I have tons and tons of music. So much music, I don't really want to cluter my laptop with all of it. I have all of it on an external hard drive.

Now is there a way I can sink the ipod to that hard drive instead of transferring all the songs to my computer and then onto the Ipod? Is Itunes going to automatically transfer all the music onto my laptop on it's own? I know Itunes keeps it's own libraries but I don't remember how they work. Seems kind of dumb that you would have to hold all the music on a computer that has less memory than the device.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:19 PM   #2
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Not an expert but Im not sure how you would sync your ipod to an external harddrive? How would it read it? As far as your computer goes, your ipod has more memory? Must be an old laptop.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:24 PM   #3
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Yes, you can sync your ipod to an external hard drive. Edit/Preferences/Advanced and change your music folder location.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:36 PM   #4
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Yes, you can sync your ipod to an external hard drive. Edit/Preferences/Advanced and change your music folder location.

Yes, what he said.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:57 PM   #5
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my ipod is synced to a external hard drive
i actually have 2 libraries on my external, and i can switch between them

change your music folder location as stated before, BUT
make sure you also UNcheck "copy files to music folder" or whatever it says
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:14 PM   #6
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It's mostly been said already but here's what you want to do (applies to iTunes 8):

Open iTunes and navigate to the preferences (in the Edit menu in Windows and the iTunes menu on a Mac). Click on the Advanced tab at the top of the pop-up screen. The first option on this tab is "iTunes Music folder location"... change this to the directory where you want your music stored on your external drive.

If you'd like iTunes to sort your music into artist/album folders based on file metadata, then make sure "Keep iTunes Music folder organized" is checked. If you'd like to keep your own sorting in place, uncheck the box.

Similarly, you can uncheck "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library" if you don't want iTunes to duplicate your files in the next step. If you have room on your external drive to duplicate your entire music collection, leave this checked.

Now, go to File > Add to library... and point iTunes to the folder on your external drive where all your music is held. It will chomp on the files for awhile depending on the size of your library and the speed of the computer. When it finishes, you'll see all of your music in iTunes. Right-click on any song and select "Get Info". This will open a window where you can check the path to make sure it's on your external drive hasn't been copied over to your internal drive.

If you let iTunes copy the files when importing, you can now go trash the originals to reclaim some space on the external drive.
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #7
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Sweet, so could I use the external drive even if on two different computers?
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Not an expert but Im not sure how you would sync your ipod to an external harddrive? How would it read it? As far as your computer goes, your ipod has more memory? Must be an old laptop.
Not really, even new laptops are around the 120 gb range. It's a ****load of memory. You just be baller.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:07 PM   #8
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Sweet, so could I use the external drive even if on two different computers?
As long as both copies of iTunes are pointed at the library XML file on the external drive, yes. I personally wouldn't recommend it though if you can avoid it, since things can get messy if file permissions or other cross-computer problems prevent iTunes from writing to the databases.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:08 PM   #9
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Sweet, so could I use the external drive even if on two different computers?

Not really, even new laptops are around the 120 gb range. It's a ****load of memory. You just be baller.
lol Im no baller. My Dell is over a year old and has 250gb. I just bought an external drive and the smallest they had was 320gb. 120gb is really not that much.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:24 PM   #10
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My work computer is 80 gb. I think my laptop is 120.

you baller!
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:29 PM   #11
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Cheap laptops (like the one Lou was looking at, haha) have 250 nowadays. My dad's MacBook has 500, mine has 320, which is the same as my desktop. If your laptop isn't a piece of crap, you should look at upgrading the hard drive, large ones can be had for fairly cheap.
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:29 AM   #12
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Ok I have some issues that have me I had my Ipod synced to my external hard drive and then all the sudden it forgot where all the songs where. I even tried to see where it thought they were and it wouldn't tell me. It would just say that they could not be located (you would think it would still try to keep a reference as to where they where but no).

Anyway I figured I would just delete the library and import it again. Well when I did that I lost all my playlist (about 1000 worth).

My question is 1) can I hook the Ipod up without it deleting all my playlist (now the only thing that has the record of the songs) 2) Is there anyway to pull the playlist off the thing? 3) why did it lose track of where the songs where in the first place?

I really don't want to sit there for hours and hours again recreating these playlist.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:01 AM   #13
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Is there a way to transfer music/movies from the IPOD to your PC without the use of a third party software? I just got a new computer and dont want to upload every C.D. I have. Gurus chime in
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:37 PM   #14
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Without third party software? No. But there are plenty of free/cheap options out there for both Mac and PC.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:39 PM   #15
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Asher I actually think it is possible, I found a site that I am going to try the steps tonight when I get home.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-...-5-easy-steps/

try it if ya want for me
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:40 PM   #16
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Asher I actually think it is possible, I found a site that I am going to try the steps tonight when I get home.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-...-5-easy-steps/

try it if ya want for me
That in theory should work but if you have a large library (say off a 30 or more gig iPod) the amount of time you waste consolidating those folders make this approach a big waste of time. It will also not carry over playlists or any of the metadata tracked by iTunes.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:11 PM   #17
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i use podutil. its pretty easy to use
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:33 PM   #18
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you can get the music off of it for free. make sure you have hidden folders visible. then go into your ipod, youll see a folder called i think "ipod control" then there will be a LOT of folders that are F## (F and one/two numbers) those store all your music/video. now you can copy all of those to your desktop. once that is done, make them so they are not hidden. all of them. including subfiles and folders. then go into itunes, in the settings make it keep your itunes library organized. set the location to somewhere OTHER than where the F## folders are. then go to file, import, and select the MAIN folder, not the F## folders themselves, but the one up from that. it will then import them, read the tags, and organize them accordingly

NOTE: there will probably be songs that come up as QFES or something similar. it means that it couldnt read the tag for the name. you can try to match them up if you want
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Ok I have some issues that have me I had my Ipod synced to my external hard drive and then all the sudden it forgot where all the songs where. I even tried to see where it thought they were and it wouldn't tell me. It would just say that they could not be located (you would think it would still try to keep a reference as to where they where but no).

Anyway I figured I would just delete the library and import it again. Well when I did that I lost all my playlist (about 1000 worth).

My question is 1) can I hook the Ipod up without it deleting all my playlist (now the only thing that has the record of the songs) 2) Is there anyway to pull the playlist off the thing? 3) why did it lose track of where the songs where in the first place?

I really don't want to sit there for hours and hours again recreating these playlist.
ill try to look on my ipod when i get home and see if i can find the playlists file. it cant be that hard to find. as far as importing it though, im not sure. but ill mess with it

and as far as losing track of the files, if for whatever reason that itunes was opened before the external was fully read, it could say that the file isnt there. ive fixed my problems many times. there are always ways to fix it without deleting the library....
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ill try to look on my ipod when i get home and see if i can find the playlists file. it cant be that hard to find. as far as importing it though, im not sure. but ill mess with it
Playlist information is contained in an XML file on the computer and I assume that's also the case on the iPod side.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:23 PM   #21
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Playlist information is contained in an XML file on the computer and I assume that's also the case on the iPod side.
thats what i am assuming as well, but like i said im not 100% sure if its "importable" in some way, shape, or form. im pretty sure it is, ive just never had/tried to do it. so ill tinker with it
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