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Old 10-31-2009, 02:34 PM   #151
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbocharger-3-C...item3ef7663d54
That's the 1 I'll be rockin, motor goes in tomorrow !
Hey Gabe How bout a re-tune, I think I was 1 of your last ones to be tuned in may,?
Fueling should be dialed in , just need to adjust timing & boost.. please
Motor is in , I pulled some timing across the board, (15 degrees to be exact)
I maxed out my maf voltage & pulled 5.13 eng loads @ 21 p.s.i! Car pulls unbelievable.Now If I could just convince someone To give me a retune I think I'd blow the doors off of almost anything I stage against
Turbo starts to spool around 3200 rpms & pulls till redline no problem!
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:27 AM   #152
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Got a tune and plenty of miles on it now. I would guess around 6000 miles or so. Tuned at 16psi and put down 315h/394t at Denver altitude. Anything past 15 pounds was blowing hot air even with the front mount.

Very fun top end, pulls all the way to redline.

I do regret to say that i will be pulling this turbo soon and replacing with a 68hta.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:27 AM   #153
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Finally finished mine this past week.
current set up -

2008 Subaru WRX-
P&L Intake
TD05 18g 8cm Kamak Turbo
XO2 Legacy FMIC
Custom 3" TBE
TGV deletes
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Edited for inaccuracies ....

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Old 02-21-2010, 02:33 AM   #154
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Where are you guys buying these turbo's from? Is it only sold on ebay?? Looking for a TD0518G 8cm2 for my 06 WRX.

Will it fit with no modification with a top mount??
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:19 AM   #155
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Actually, yours is a great question. If I understand correctly the 8 part of the name, this choice will increase the length of the turbine housing.

Since the turbo is held by the turbine housing, this will make it stick out towards the front more. maybe a bit more towards the downpipe too..

But the good news is that the answer is no , there will be no installation problems with the TMIC, because nobody reported problems and many run the 8 size housing.
I think this housing (8 size) was originally designed by HKS and their intention was to make it fit in stock location with stock connections.

As far as who sells it: try Kinugawa and Kando Dynamic. I prefer Kando and sometimes their product quality is superior to Kamak.
They're not very cheap though.
If I understand what's happening, I think that the Japanese are manufacturing their product in China as well, these days. So Kando is advertizing their location in Japan, but ship out of Hong Kong.
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:19 AM   #156
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yes it will fit with no modifications .
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:46 AM   #157
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I got mine on ebay...there aren't many of them but if you search td05 and include description you can find one!
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:02 PM   #158
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Ive rebuilt 4 td04L turbochargers now and have used kamaks rebuild kits, their internal parts seem to be made with quality, and i have yet to have one of the 4 turbos fail.


if their turbos are like their rebuild kits, they are just fine. would i try a kamak turbo? yes.

Although I would steer clear of any turbo on ebay that has a new sticker price for $299.00 and doesnt have any form of identification plates or serial numbers, or a builders plate.

also make sure to follow the break in period of a new turbo using new oil, low boost for the first month, and longer than normal cooldowns before turning the car off.

just my 2 cents.


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Old 03-12-2010, 04:46 PM   #159
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Got my Kamak TD06SL2-18G 8cm2 in today. The turbo looks great, but i had one question. The wheel on the exducer side is about 2-3" below the flat surface, where the wastegate sits. is this normal?? I am used to seeing the wheels sitting flush with the wastegate.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:26 PM   #160
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pics would help
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:06 PM   #161
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that could be the "8" vs the 7. The 7 is more flush i would guess.
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:18 AM   #162
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Guys, here's a pic of my Kamak turbo (hot side) does that look right?


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Old 03-13-2010, 10:36 AM   #163
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does what look right? the ground off area of the shaft?
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He was asking about how deeply the turbine is recessed. The ground-off spot is from balancing.

I haven't seen any 18Gs up close but all turbos I have seen up close have been somewhat recessed. The smaller the turbo, the more deeply recessed it's likely to be. I wouldn't worry about it at all. The big question IMO is where the compressor housing sits, relative to the top of the up-pipe (because that's where the turbo is anchored to the car).

If you have the necessary clearance around the TGVs, manifold, etc, then you're good to go. If you have the compressor inlet blocked by the TGVs, like some Blouch and FP turbos I've seen, then installation will be a pain in the ass.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:48 PM   #165
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Awesome thread!!

I have some questions tho:
what is the difference in these two turbos?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbocharger-SUB...item3ef76642c8

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Turbocharger-T...126152007r6439

And what is the difference in the 2(3) manufacturers??
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:25 AM   #166
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My results are almost the same as Mr.Ed's except w/ less torque( I'm running a 2.35 ) maybe the less displacement has something to do w/ the 50 ft lbs of torque less?? .. N.M Just saw he's running E85 , thats gotta be the difference ...or not ?
I'll post a pic of the results when my digi camera has batteries . seems a lil laggy ,but pulls all the way till redline which is 7500
Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic

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Old 04-18-2010, 12:29 AM   #167
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Awesome thread!!

I have some questions tho:
what is the difference in these two turbos?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbocharger-SUB...item3ef76642c8

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Turbocharger-T...126152007r6439

And what is the difference in the 2(3) manufacturers??
I think Kando is a retailer for Kinugawa , No difference in the turbos as far as I can tell
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:57 PM   #168
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Bump for anyone else to share their thoughts or more recent results with these types of turbos.

I know of a local person running a Kinugawa TD06-20g 8cn sl2, and they are making great power
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:02 PM   #169
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I would be VERY suprised if these used Mitsu CHRA's like the TD06 Assembly or true garret wheels, they are pricey and hard to come by with Mitsu's new purchasing guidelines.

They may be descent, i don't know but someone posted that the use genuine components and I would bet the ranch against that statement.
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From what I understand, turbos from Kamak Dynamics, Kinugawa and Kando Dynamics are all one and the same.

It has been shown by a few users now, that the TD0x turbos these guys sell that are advertised as using MHI CHRA and/or components, actually do use the MHI CHRA and/or components - BUT, they sell quite a few variations of these TD0X turbos and not all use MHI CHRA and/or components, some use Garrett, and some use copies of other brands (like Greddy).

Saying all that, quite a few ppl have them now, and regardless of what components they actually use, those ppl who have them and actually use them have reported they are of good quality and they perform well.

It is always good to have alternatives to the big name brand turbos being sold for twice as much - it keeps the big name brand companies honest and keeps competition alive

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Old 07-09-2010, 07:38 AM   #171
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I was recently in the market for a 14 PSI actuator for my Evo III TD05-16G.
Kinugawa had it available, Kamak did not and in the process of comparing saw that some of their other actuators had different part numbers for the same item.
I got the wrong item from Kamak, had to return it, then got the actuator I needed from Kando Dynamic, it shipped as usual from Hong Kong, with a Kinugawa box.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:10 PM   #172
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I'm a new member and a new 07 WRX owner from Australia
Have ordered mine and got it the other day the 28/9/10. Looks fantastic but the ultimate test is if it lasts and does 200+ atw.






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Old 09-29-2010, 08:48 PM   #173
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The installation kit is good but look carefully at the oil return tube. A Mitsubishi unit has the internal diameter of the tube same as the diameter of the flange.
Some of these units have the walls of the tube clearly visible through the bore of the flange.
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@thenic123:

that wasn't vey much you were hoping for. I'm aiming for 350WHP, atleast!
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:32 PM   #175
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that wasn't vey much you were hoping for. I'm aiming for 350WHP, atleast!
Oh, i meant 200+ kilo watts atw, any more would be better but i don't think i will get that far without pushing the turbo alot. My mistake
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