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Old 08-18-2009, 07:05 PM   #1
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Default Surgeline tuned: Evo III 16G. I am pleased !

2007 WRX wagon "Greta".

Stock airbox, K&N filter (soon to change).
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I have several maps for pump and e-85. I run the e-85 19 psi as my daily, and will use it at auto-x when I can. The two overlay maps shown here are a torque biased boost taper pump map for auto-x, and the 20 psi e-85. The turbo is done, and the gain at 20 psi in peak is not really worth it. Tim did another great job with tuning my car and I cannot say enough about how impressed I am with his ability and attitude. Dustin did a clean install, and I am glad I had the installation done at the shop. Saved me a good chunk of time as I could not have done it as efficiently as he did to be sure. Thanks guys.

Max power on pump was ( I don't want to get it wrong so I will add the factual later, but I can say it was over 320 whp).

E-85 at 20 psi, 13.1-11.2 AFR= 341 whp, 366 torque.

The car lays down good early boost, strong torque that comes on firm, but smooth, and power that pulls into the rev limiter. The devil's in the details I say, and there is very little I have left to do that could aid in power production with this turbo. I could have done an 18G, 20G, DOM 3, HTA68, whatever I wanted as the $ wasn't the determining factor. I am auto-xing the car until I get the motor I want for the 3788. The drivetrain and differential issue is next, so it will be a while. Meantime, quick spool and decent power that is produced well and holds is just fine.

She is pretty much a sleeper.

Travis
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:10 PM   #2
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nice power man!
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:17 PM   #3
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Thanks. Here are some more graphs with a higher filter value and separated for others like me who have a slightly difficult time evaluating overlay maps.

Mayhap this doesn't interest anyone because it's not a rotated 35R, 3788, 40R, or 42R, and I don't have a 10 second or better 1/4 with a killer 60' to post up. My interests are different, but the tune is good. Thanks again to Dustin, Brandon, Nick, Travis, and Tim @ www.surgelinetuning.com

You guys make it a pleasure to do business, truly a gem in the field.

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Old 08-19-2009, 04:38 PM   #4
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Looks good man, worst thing I did was leave PDX.... sob
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:50 PM   #5
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Default Cobb SF Intake nets more top end by a bit.

I went back in to run Greta on the Dynamometer again today after installing the Cobb SF Intake, and "box" on her. I was figuring it might free up 5 hp or so. I couldn't be happier to be wrong, again. Straight away the power was near a 20 whp jump. Thanks again Tim, I don't think I could let anyone else tune my car.

E-85 @ 20 psi - 358 hp / 377 torque
AFR 13.1 peak, 11.4 low.

Thanks for helping me to live in fear of my stock transmission Tim, nice up-sale tactics. I think I will need to locate the '07 drivetrain this winter.

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:05 PM   #6
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nice results with the intake addition on e85 jungle juice.
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:14 PM   #7
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Nice numbers, congrats..
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:19 PM   #8
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Wow....i was seriously doubting buying this turbo...but now im all in!

Nice results!
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:21 AM   #9
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Nice numbers!!

How is your IDC? I see you are running 1000cc on Evo III 16g so it's kinda unusual...btw, how is the idling if you don't mind me to ask.
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:02 AM   #10
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Nice, I hope I get there with my 16g
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:57 AM   #11
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awesome results, looks like a great turbo and combo of parts. having Tim tune it helps a bunch too, he is for sure a top choice
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:42 AM   #12
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Nice numbers!!

How is your IDC? I see you are running 1000cc on Evo III 16g so it's kinda unusual...btw, how is the idling if you don't mind me to ask.
He is running e85 that is the reason for the large injectors. Idle shouldn't be an issue, it is all in the details as the OP so finely put it.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:25 AM   #13
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Nice numbers!!

How is your IDC? I see you are running 1000cc on Evo III 16g so it's kinda unusual...btw, how is the idling if you don't mind me to ask.
I honestly don't know. I got the 1000 cc for the headroom, they were the same price as the 850 cc. It idles better than stock. Cold start can take a second to catch and it sounds rough for a few seconds, but that is the fuel.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:37 AM   #14
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Nice, I hope I get there with my 16g
I hope you get there with yours too. It is a blast to drive, though it will be better with........

It never ends.

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I hope you get there with yours too. It is a blast to drive, though it will be better with........

It never ends.

Travis

I have similar mods to you.
2006 STI
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750 injectors
Walbro Fuel pump
Grimmspeed EBCS
Invidia Catless DP
Cobb CBE (Full 3")

Current VF is cracked and could only be protuned to 18psi...making 300awhp and 300awtq. Looking to upgrade to the evo 3 16g...Would be nice to make this kind of power
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:31 AM   #16
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i was there that day i think, i dont think i saw your car get tuned, but when the hoods down you'd never guess that that power is there
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:49 AM   #17
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i was there that day i think, i dont think i saw your car get tuned, but when the hoods down you'd never guess that that power is there
I have always been into the "sleeper" thing. I am enjoying it while I can, as she can't stay in stealth mode forever. If we haven't already met, I am sure we will.

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Wonder what the curve would look like with IWG?
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I honestly don't know. I got the 1000 cc for the headroom, they were the same price as the 850 cc. It idles better than stock. Cold start can take a second to catch and it sounds rough for a few seconds, but that is the fuel.
Mine does that too with ther 750 CC injectors and 18G... Tim is an awesome tuner!
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Wonder what the curve would look like with IWG?
I've seen it and the turbo has nowhere near the top end. I don't think Tim has gotten this kind of power out of the E316G before. He will most likely chime in here at some point, so I don't mean to speak for him. I know he was pleasantly surprised with this setup and he sees it as a big deal.
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Tim Bailey wins again!
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How does the EWG hold more top
end power? Educate me.
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There are some things I can give a very educated explanation for, this is not one of them. Tim explained it to me but I don't have the database in my brain to retain the foreign matter insofar as specifics and the actual event happening, read; "this is my first turbo charged vehicle build". I understood the physics of what he was saying on a rudimentary level, but this is one of those areas where I would definitely prefer to allow Tim to give some information.
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simple the EWG flows more exhaust than the internal can . the internal is the choke point for that turbo on the larger 2.5 engine . flow a higher amount of exhaust at a higher rate and the turbine can spin more freely .
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simple the EWG flows more exhaust than the internal can . the internal is the choke point for that turbo on the larger 2.5 engine . flow a higher amount of exhaust at a higher rate and the turbine can spin more freely .

Thank you.
Yeah the gist of it that I got was that it allowed it to flow better and kept the boost steady and smooth. Tim had a more complex way of stating it, but that guy knows more about turbos than I know about cars period.
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