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Old 08-26-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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are there any competitive cars . asp , bsp , sm. how about auto vett ?
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #2
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competitive locally or nationally?
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:59 PM   #3
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are there any competitive cars . asp , bsp , sm. how about auto vett ?
The last Corvette to win BSP (2005) was an 89' AT with a 96' LT4 engine.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:02 PM   #4
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competitive locally or nationally?
not many it seems . is it because to much money to up grade trany ? or gearing
just asking looking to get out of the sti just looking around for something competitive ftd locally maybe place well nationally ?
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:27 PM   #5
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If you just wanna go fast I would think an auto vette would be your best bet. Is z51 available in auto?? There are some dual clutch/smg cars that have potential to be fast as well, I am not sure if any of them are favorably classed: Evo 10, smg mrs, PDK cayman (lots o cashmoney)...
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:52 PM   #6
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There is an EvoX here in Milwaukee that does really well in the street tire class with an AS index. I don't know how exactly that will equate to race rubber though.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:39 PM   #7
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I know there's an Audi TT that is nationally competitive in DS, plus I know that Audi has a good DSG box. Not sure if you can connect those two facts to get a competitive Audi TT DSG, but maybe.

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Old 08-27-2009, 07:30 AM   #8
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From what I've noticed, an auto works fairly well with higher HP RWD cars that have had suspension upgrades. A manual valvebody in an AP, CP, EM, etc. car seems to work really well. It can smooth power application and help keep the back end in the back. Many Autos have a long 2nd gear too......

I used to run a DSP car (FWD Mopar) with a 5speed while my buddy and now codriver had the same car with an auto. There was a consistant 3-4sec gap between us....the 5spd being faster.

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Old 08-27-2009, 05:40 PM   #9
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There's a LOT of automatics in CP...
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:28 PM   #10
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There is an EvoX here in Milwaukee that does really well in the street tire class with an AS index. I don't know how exactly that will equate to race rubber though.

thats a bad ass auto though
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:01 PM   #11
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There's a LOT of automatics in CP...
and Mullets
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:30 AM   #12
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2 feet. 2 pedals.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:47 PM   #13
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and Mullets
Ive seen plenty of mullets in ST as well...I mean the 89 Civic SI is the Sushi equvilant of the 86 IROC-Z...with LOUVERS!!!
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:31 PM   #14
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:46 PM   #15
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It can certainly simplify things.

A lot of being quick with automatics is to learn the timing of the system and get on the gas when you need to.

You could even go as far to say as automatics are the fastest cars. Think about it. Drag racing is is dominated by automatic systems. High end sports cars are all automatics. Rally cars are automatics. Electronic control and millisecond shifting is the pinnacle. Now, your grandma's Buick is a far cry from such things though. However, one shouldn't simply dis automatics simply for being automatics.

I do prefer a manual transmission just because they offer more control and they are more fun to play with. However, in a race prepped car, I would have no problem running an automatic, at least one that is set up correctly for the task.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:48 AM   #16
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZoL1..._embedded#t=12

Its not autoX, but with the right set up a automatic can be competitive. Like the above stated, you just have to get used to getting on the gas quicker then normally with a manual.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:37 PM   #17
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Well if you do decide to go auto, and on top of that if you decide to get a vette the first year of the c-6 vette came with a paddle shifter option and its been a while but i remember the report actually saying it outran the manual in a drag race. Its a pretty lil secret that chevy has. not to many people have heard. The report also mentioned it was quick on teh shifts too not evo quick but quick.

but if you do go auto be sure to get a paddle shifter that doesnt override the driver and shift on its own.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:43 PM   #18
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but if you do go auto be sure to get a paddle shifter that doesnt override the driver and shift on its own.
Good luck trying to find such an auto system, unless you install a full manual valve body. The of course you are beyond many of the classes you listed....
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:08 PM   #19
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there are a good selection of auto/ paddles shifter that dont override. I got to ride in teh BMW drive for a cure test drive, and the 135, z4 330 x6 730i all had the paddle shifters and they would not shift unless you wanted to. and i know the c6 paddle shifter does not over ride. obviously when you get into cheaper versions of paddle shifters they will workl more like an auto.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:30 AM   #20
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It can certainly simplify things.


You could even go as far to say as automatics are the fastest cars. Think about it. Drag racing is is dominated by automatic systems. High end sports cars are all automatics. Rally cars are automatics. Electronic control and millisecond shifting is the pinnacle. Now, your grandma's Buick is a far cry from such things though. However, one shouldn't simply dis automatics simply for being automatics.

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Last time I checked the Subaru wrc is not an automatic. Yes it is set up differently, but its a far cry from the automatic car you'd drive off the lot.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:42 AM   #21
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Some of the new twin clutch "automatics" would likely work well. I have heard that the new Evo "auto" is quite good. But those "automatics" are really manuals with two clutches.....
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Last time I checked the Subaru wrc is not an automatic. Yes it is set up differently, but its a far cry from the automatic car you'd drive off the lot.
Yeah its set up diffrently, You could consider pretty much anything without a clutch pedal as an automatic.
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:53 AM   #23
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I race in an automatic and I am competitive. The only real things I dont like about it is 1: the gearing sucks, and 2: The stock TCM cannot keep up with the much needed shifts. a close 3rd would be the lack of compression breaking, but I have upgraded brakes s o that helps.
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I'm not saying that you can't be competitive in an automatic, but I am saying that if you think an automatic car that you are driving is set up like a rally car than you know nothing about cars.
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I thought it was fairly obvious the OP was talking about cars with torque converters.. Not flappy-paddle auto-clutch gearboxes.
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