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Old 09-04-2009, 03:29 PM   #1
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Default Tokico D-Specs + Camber bolts = less camber than stock struts without camber bolts?!

So i recently got the Tokico D-Specs installed.
At the same time I decided to do camber bolts all around as well.
And saggy butt shims but that's not the issue since the rear camber is ok.

Yes, I installed the camber bolts at least correctly!

Camber bolts, tabs and all go on the bottom hole of the strut/knuckle joint. They should be set to max and the stock camber bolt up top should be used to adjust.

Well i took it in for an alignment and the guy says he can only get -.9 out of the front camber! That's less than the -1.2 I had with my stock struts + no camber bolts. He tried twisting both camber bolts around on both sides and -.9 is all he can get.

Can anyone tell me what wrong? Or is it just supposed to be like that....
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:43 PM   #2
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So i recently got the Tokico D-Specs installed.
At the same time I decided to do camber bolts all around as well.
And saggy butt shims but that's not the issue since the rear camber is ok.

Yes, I installed the camber bolts at least correctly!

Camber bolts, tabs and all go on the bottom hole of the strut/knuckle joint. They should be set to max and the stock camber bolt up top should be used to adjust.

Well i took it in for an alignment and the guy says he can only get -.9 out of the front camber! That's less than the -1.2 I had with my stock struts + no camber bolts. He tried twisting both camber bolts around on both sides and -.9 is all he can get.

Can anyone tell me what wrong? Or is it just supposed to be like that....
It's also settled quite good. I mean I got the alignment 2 days after the installation. I don't think it's going to settle any more than that?

Is it because the struts are slightly differently sized? I'm not sure....

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I meant to edit, and yet I quoted.... My bad.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:44 PM   #4
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:39 PM   #5
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So i recently got the Tokico D-Specs installed.
At the same time I decided to do camber bolts all around as well.
And saggy butt shims but that's not the issue since the rear camber is ok.

Yes, I installed the camber bolts at least correctly!

Camber bolts, tabs and all go on the bottom hole of the strut/knuckle joint. They should be set to max and the stock camber bolt up top should be used to adjust.

Well i took it in for an alignment and the guy says he can only get -.9 out of the front camber! That's less than the -1.2 I had with my stock struts + no camber bolts. He tried twisting both camber bolts around on both sides and -.9 is all he can get.

Can anyone tell me what wrong? Or is it just supposed to be like that....
This is your problem. The camber bolt should be in the upper of the two holes mounting the strut to the knuckle. The front should have had a camber bolt in this position as an OE piece. You could add an aftermarket bolt to replace the stock lower bolt, but it makes adjustments more complicated. It'd be easier to slot the upper hole with a grinder and push the hub inward to get a little more negative camber. I've done this as well as slot the top three holes in the strut tower to try and get some amount of camber while using stock struts and springs.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:54 PM   #6
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i live in same town, which alignment shop did you go?
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:48 PM   #7
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The front should have had a camber bolt in this position as an OE piece. You could add an aftermarket bolt to replace the stock lower bolt, but it makes adjustments more complicated.

Unless i read it wrong, that's what he did.


What springs? Is it obviously lower than it was before?

My car has a tough time hitting -1.5 with plates and stock bolts, since it's lifted very slightly. Front camber is very sensitive to ride height.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:42 PM   #8
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No currently, I am on stock springs.

But if you're having a hard time even with camber plates, I suppose nothing is out of the normal? Though I suspect I have some toe issues, it might be just memory steer. Meh.

Also, in all the guides I've read about camber bolts with subarus, it's a BAD idea to replace the stock camber bolt with this puny 14mm SPC Camber bolt. From what I understand there is a large chance of it failing and having very bad consequences from doing so.

All of them say I MUST put it into the lower slot.
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gd-suspe...-tutorial.html
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:08 AM   #9
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lol I could have sworn the camber bolt when on top while the strut locking bolt was in the bottom hole
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:56 AM   #10
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Wait, so am I wrong?
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Wait, so am I wrong?
You are right. Stock camber bolts go in the top hole, aftermarket ones in the bottom.
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