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Old 09-04-2009, 03:36 PM   #1
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hey guys!

im wanting to get into autocross racing and would like to get a 93-01 impreza rs, and i am wanting to know what you would suggest as a better platform, a 2 door or a 4 door?

thanks soo much!

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Old 09-04-2009, 03:37 PM   #2
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they are the same as far as chassis goes. wheel base and everything. same.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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o really same chassis??? the 4 door looks a lot longer
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:48 PM   #4
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Well I have a coupe so I would say that the 2dr is the bestestes.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:55 PM   #5
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Are widebody kits easy to get for the 2 door?
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:10 PM   #6
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i would get teh 4 door for the better location of the C pillar creating (albeit slightly) better chasis rigidity.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:19 PM   #7
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well.... if you're looking for a "GC" RS then you'd be limited to
98-01

4 door RSs were only available from 00-01

there are other, more important mechanical differences between the 98,99,00-01 than the number of doors (the coupe weighs 10lbs less)

http://www.cars101.com/impreza.html

RS Production numbers:
1998: 1,695. 700 in Rally Blue
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2000: coupe 5spd 2,350, auto. 530, sedan: 5 spd 1,625, auto 1,600
2001: 5 spd coupe 1707, auto coupe 319, 5 spd sedan 1058, auto sedan 1007

oh, and they are becoming increasingly more and more difficult to find, just get the best/cleanest one you can find out there for the price that you can afford.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:22 PM   #8
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I got a coupe. If I could go back I would get a sedan or wagon. The 2 door just ends being a PITA for nothing.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:27 PM   #9
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The sedans actually end up being lighter weight than the coupes as well. I loved my '98 sedan (Impreza L), very practical. The '97 Impreza L Wagon I had was even more practical, but was heavier (2670lbs for the sedan and 2817lbs for the wagon, same trim, both weighed on same scale).

'01 RS Sedan had viscous center AND rear diffs, making it the most desirable of any RS model IMO.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:34 PM   #10
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Just get a L and swap it and call it a day =P
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:10 AM   #11
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I would get an L Sedan. Plus if you need to get in the back for anything. PITA with a cage if you have a coupe.
I know in the 00-01 RS. In stock form. The Sedan was only 5lbs heavier then the Coupe, but the Sedan is more rigid then the Coupe. That is mainly why i bought the Sedan. Plus, easier to get people and stuff in and out fo the car.
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Are widebody kits easy to get for the 2 door?
HTAutos, Aerosim and B-Magic make 2 door kits.
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if you're auto-xing, you won't want to have the weight of the widebody kit...
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Sedan for ease of rear entry/loading and better chassis stiffness. Wide body "kits" might weigh more, but I had a local body shop cut/hammer/weld mine to fit a 275 or 285 tire on my GC.

I'd pick the lightest sedan I could find (I think the 95 sedan is the lightest) and just have fun. If you're wanting to do stock or ST then the 2000 or 2001 is the best since it has a viscous rear and the biggest engine. If you're wanting to swap then go for the lightest chassis possible so the extra weight of the turbo engine is minimized.
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94 was the lightest sedan from the factory. You are fitting 285's on factory sheetmetal that's cut and welded or is it some form of custom steel widebody?
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The sedans actually end up being lighter weight than the coupes as well. I loved my '98 sedan (Impreza L), very practical. The '97 Impreza L Wagon I had was even more practical, but was heavier (2670lbs for the sedan and 2817lbs for the wagon, same trim, both weighed on same scale).

'01 RS Sedan had viscous center AND rear diffs, making it the most desirable of any RS model IMO.
The 00' and the 01's have the limited slips, not just the 01 models. I am not so sure on the sedans being lighter, I was always under the impression they were ever so slightly heavier due to the door mechanics.

If weight is you major focal point, the earlier the model the better. The 93-95ish models were very light. But of course the newer, heavier models do have a lot more power and more aftermarket support. The chassis is all the same, so you have a blue million options for suspension and brake tuning.
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from all released weights I've seen, the sedans were all about 10 lbs lighter than the coupes.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:30 PM   #18
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hey guys!

im wanting to get into autocross racing and would like to get a 93-01 impreza rs, and i am wanting to know what you would suggest as a better platform, a 2 door or a 4 door?

thanks soo much!

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What class are you targeting?
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:50 AM   #19
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i would get teh 4 door for the better location of the C pillar creating (albeit slightly) better chasis rigidity.
I think you meant B pillar. The A and C pillars are in the exact same place in the coupe, sedan and wagon.

But yes, the B pillar being closer to the center means a slightly stiffer overall structure. If I had to do it again (still have my '99 RS) I'd have gotten an '00 or '01. The MAP-based ecu is much happier with intakes than the fragile MAF sensors and the large doors are a PITA for entry-exit. The only positive to the coupes, IMO, is the lack of a pillar in your peripheral vision (if you're really tall).
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The 00' and the 01's have the limited slips, not just the 01 models. I am not so sure on the sedans being lighter, I was always under the impression they were ever so slightly heavier due to the door mechanics.
'98-'01s manuals had viscous center and the '99-'01 had them in the rear also. The automatics had the electronic sensing slip system (can't remember the name).

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I would get an L Sedan. Plus if you need to get in the back for anything. PITA with a cage if you have a coupe.
I know in the 00-01 RS. In stock form. The Sedan was only 5lbs heavier then the Coupe, but the Sedan is more rigid then the Coupe. That is mainly why i bought the Sedan. Plus, easier to get people and stuff in and out fo the car.
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from all released weights I've seen, the sedans were all about 10 lbs lighter than the coupes.
When the sedan landed in 2000, published numbers were 2805 for the 2 door and 2810 for the 4 door. (At the time, I had a black '99 coupe).

In the grand scheme of things, lost in the wash, with the nod going to the sedan for the added rigidity as Pat said.

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oh yeah, forgot we were specifically talking RS'
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94 was the lightest sedan from the factory. You are fitting 285's on factory sheetmetal that's cut and welded or is it some form of custom steel widebody?
The front fenders were hammered/pulled out with the front bumper being melted then shaped to fit the curve out. The rears were cut then a small BMW style rear flare was welded on. With the exception of about 2 inches on each rear panel the rest is just factory sheet metal that's been worked over.
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i can get a super super clean 00 2 door rs with 133k miles for 3800 obo should i go for it??
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Umm.. YES.


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'98-'01s manuals had viscous center and the '99-'01 had them in the rear also. The automatics had the electronic sensing slip system (can't remember the name).

This.



When the sedan landed in 2000, published numbers were 2805 for the 2 door and 2810 for the 4 door. (At the time, I had a black '99 coupe).

In the grand scheme of things, lost in the wash, with the nod going to the sedan for the added rigidity as Pat said.

--kC
The '99 still had the open rear diff.

.. not that it matters one bit on dry pavement. The viscous rear LSD isn't doing squat unless you're in loose/slippery stuff.
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