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Old 05-07-2002, 10:11 AM   #1
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Default Attn: 2nd Gen Legacy owners. Are there any that haven't blown head gasket?

I wanted to start a list of people that have blown head gaskets.

If you dont mind post your info like this.

MY-97
Miles-66,904
Trans- 5-speed
Age-5 years
Name-HIHO

Comments: I haven't blown one yet but figure it is coming. I have the extended warranty so I am not real worried about it. I would like to see if they are going at a pretty consistant basis.
Thanks for the time.
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:17 AM   #2
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Age is explicit in the MY, isn't it?

MY-99
Miles-46,123
5MT
Name-lucien2

MY-99
Miles-42,876
5MT
Name-lucien2

no problem with either one.

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Old 05-07-2002, 10:25 AM   #3
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Good topic. I would like to have this info so I can decide on buying the warranty. I think that auto or manual may be relevent info. I suspect that the manuals have more trouble due to more time spent at higher rpms. (I know that I rev the crap out of the Impreza)

linsavy
MY99 GT Wagon
Auto
42000 miles
no problem
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:29 AM   #4
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What I meant by age is age of head gasket when it blew.

Ok add if it is man. or auto.
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:32 AM   #5
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OK,

nuburu2
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M/T
106000 miles
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:36 AM   #6
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MY-97
Miles-~49k
Trans- auto
Age-5 years
Name-haven't named the car
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:55 AM   #7
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MY99
~47,***k miles
GT Sdn
5MT
no problem with head gasket (yet?)

-chrisC
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Old 05-07-2002, 11:51 AM   #8
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MY98 (early, as in April '97 production)
~106,000 miles
GT Sdn
5MT
At @ 40k miles I had the famous crack in #4 Cyl. They replaced the short block and I've been doing fine since. (fingers crossed as the engine screams towards redline for the 1 billionth time!) lol.....
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:22 PM   #9
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MY~98
Miles-~54k
Trans~ Auto
Age~4 years

Recent problems was just with the alternator (changed by dealership for recall) and dead battery due to bad alternator

so far no probs (knock on wood)
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:36 PM   #10
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Cajual
MY97 GT Sedan
Trans: Auto

Engine blew at 98000 Km =~60000 Miles

Cause to be determined when engine comes out in early September.

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Old 05-07-2002, 02:10 PM   #11
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MY-98
Miles-34,000 (55,000km)
Trans-5 Speed manual
Age-no problems with head gasket
Name-self evident

I've been running synthetic since the 1500km service, usually Penzoil or Castrol Syntec, but I also used a case of Agip once.

...but, what's all this talk about head gaskets/No. 4 cylinder being prone to failure?

Is this just an i-Club rumour, or are there statistics to back up this claim?

BTW, I have a small oil consumption issue, nothing serious but I found it strange that a new car needs topping up with half a liter (quart) at least monthly.

Also, I regularly make use of the full rev range and have spent extended time in the 5-6500rpm territory on TSD rallies and at a rallycross.

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Old 05-07-2002, 03:54 PM   #12
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MY-99
Miles-48,000
Trans-5 Speed manual
Age-no problems with head gasket yet
Name-Jonathan

I beleive head gaskets fail all the time on MY97's although maybe its because those models have more milage than the newer ones.

Subigal's 99 Legacy failed in a BIG way (replaced the entire short block iirc), although I suspect she maybe pushed that thing a little hard at times.
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:00 PM   #13
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I came to the i-club about 2 months after my short block was replaced. I got currious and did a search. There were numerous people who had engine replacements due to a crack in the cylinder wall. It seems the majority of them were cracks in the #4 cyl. I'm almost certain Jamie's was. But anyhoo, I think all of that stuff died when they dumped the archives. (? maybe ?) I did a search and I couldn't find anything.
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:13 PM   #14
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jacob
MY 98 sedan
Automatic
50K miles
No problems
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Old 05-07-2002, 05:27 PM   #15
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MY97 OB
4EAT
106000 miles
no problems
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Old 05-07-2002, 05:52 PM   #16
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MY-98
Miles-53k
5MT
Name- richeich

No problems at all. I had the alternator recall done, but it hadn't failed yet. I'm curious about the problems as well. I used to have an SVX, and still pop in over on their club to keep in touch. Somebody asked about older Legacys, and a couple of people jumped in there and told him the 2.5 DOHC was the biggest crap engine Subaru had ever made. I mean, absolute junk! Anyway, I jumped on there and politely asked to be educated as to why they would say that, and never really got a genuine response. I understand the SOHC is an improvement, but I didn't realize we had such terrible engines. Here's a link to the thread, just for anybody that's interested. http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/show...ghlight=legacy
Nobody needs to go over there and start anything, just check it out for grins, if you want.

Rich
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Old 05-07-2002, 06:33 PM   #17
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MY97 Outback
75k miles
manual
No head gasket yet

I've gotten the CEL a couple of times and fixed by using BG 44K fuel injector cleaner ($20 and well worth it), since the problem seems to be from a poorly designed fuel injector (maybe soemthing with the flow) which seems to cause the cylinder #4 to "act up" leading finally to blown headgasket. That's what I seem to gather from some mechanics around here.

I really don't know the full details, otherwise I'd go into them. All I can say is keep those fuel injectors clean. Maybe get new ones.

Other problem I have is that there's a pretty bad oil leak right by my tranny. Anyone know of a silent recall regarding this?
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Old 05-07-2002, 06:36 PM   #18
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like the rear crank seal?
I got mine replaced under warranty..............
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Old 05-07-2002, 06:45 PM   #19
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MY-97
2.5 GT
5 MT

At approx. 78,000 miles, the engine went all to hell, including cracked block, blown headgasket, etc...

I'm the third owner; the previous owner did lots of work on the car- and wasted all his money then sold it to me

I'm guessing the first owner didn't do much by way of nice treatment or maintenance.

-Brian
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Old 05-07-2002, 07:25 PM   #20
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MY-97
Miles-64,900
Trans- 5-speed
Age-5 years
Name- no name for car...

Comments: Has been trouble free so far ... have one more year on an extended warranty too ...

Charlie
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Old 05-07-2002, 07:53 PM   #21
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richeich- That was pretty funny. "I heard it was crap so it must be". I think that any engine can have major problems, it just depends on how you drive it and how well you maintain it. Someone like Patrick Olsen has seen alot of headgaskets blow but he also DRIVES his car. I don't know if there are any real problems; time will tell. So far it seems that most people are having good luck with the SOHC. I love it and have had no problems in the 10k miles I have owned it. And yes I hit the red on a regular basis. I hope I can say the same after a season of auto-x.

Keep them coming, this is good stuff.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:08 PM   #22
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It's funny this topic just started up the other day.......

I went out for a quick drive after doing the grounding mod and installing a temp gauge (read: indoor/outdoor thermometer) on my intake, and (***HOPEFULLY***) my thermostat stuck closed. The car was fine for the first part of the drive, then I was doing a little slow driving and the temp gauge started to rise. I pulled over and let the fans run. In the meantime I noticed that the coolant in the overflow had hardly moved and the upper and lower radiator hoses were very cool to the touch. I let the car cool and then headed for my house, which is only ~2 miles away. It started heating up again, so I pulled over and let it cool. When I started for the final leg home I stopped at a four-way stop and the temp gauge went up a touch then dropped to it's normal middle of the road resting place. I let it idle for 5 minutes or so when I go home and it seemed fine. I just had my coolant 'exchanged' (where they use the machine and pressure flush it) Saturday. My hopes are I only had a stuck thermostat due to some trash that was flushed from the cooling system. Anyhoo, just had to tell someone, glad you guys are here!

Guess I'll be heading up to the dealership tomorrow to get a new thermostat and then I'll have to drain out all my nice new coolant.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:32 PM   #23
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Sorry to highjack the thread, but

the same thing happened to me at the rallyX 2 weekends ago. I'd be driving and after the course, the temp would shoot way up, had to drive with the heat blasting for 1/2 mile and it was fine. Something to do with the T-stat which should only take 15 min to replace.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:41 PM   #24
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I admit, the head gasket thing worries me a little. I seem to recall Patrick Olsen saying that he didn't get any indication on the temp gauge that anything was wrong. It doesn't do us any good if it doesn't indicate anything. It would be interesting to put an aftermarket temp gauge in somewhere to monitor it.

On another note, I was down at the Subie dealership last year, and they had a Silver 97 GT in the garage, from Missouri (I'm in Tulsa, OK). Apparently these folks were on a road trip, and the thing overheated on the turnpike, about 70 miles out of town. It overheated and died, they waited for a tow truck, and had it towed into Tulsa. The mechanic said when they unloaded it, the engine still had some heat in it. Totally cooked. At the time, I couldn't figure out how someone could let that happen, without noticing it quicker. But if the gauge doesn't show it, then by the time it sputters and dies, it's too late.
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Old 05-08-2002, 12:14 AM   #25
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A REAL tempature gauge has been on my list for some time. Probably the biggest hold-back has been the lack of gauge pods for the Legacy. I guess I am going to go ahead and order a gauge and one of the little 'bucket' pods that Autometer makes. I am sick and tired of this idiot light with a needle!

DO YOU HEAR ME SUBARU? WE WANT A REAL GAUGE!
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