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Old 11-15-2008, 10:44 PM   #501
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98 2.5gt
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132k

Bought my 98gt in july, replaced headgaskets in august at 133k. It runs great now and I'm not at all worried about the new MLS gaskets going. It's also nice to have new timing/water pump stuff on there and new seals everywhere since I didn't get any service history. I get to go under my 140k mile car and not see any leaks.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:13 PM   #502
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My temperature gauge was very close to the "H" on my way home from work last week. Even though I topped off the coolant last month it still took about a 1/2 gallon of anti-freeze. I scheduled a tune-up at the dealer and told them what happened. They told me my head gaskets need to be replaced for about $1,600 (down from $1,800).

MY Impreza 2.5 RS
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:49 PM   #503
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Bought a 2001 Legacy a few days ago from a friend who had zero troubles in 2 years. Topped off the coolant friday evening--it looked good.
Drove it yesterday. All ok.
This morning during a 10 minute drive, the cabin heat stopped. The outside temp was about 10F. The coolant gauge went high so I pulled over immediately. Coolant was all over the front of the engine.
I let it cool for three hours and refilled it with about a gallon of coolant mix. As per the manual, I ran the engine at 2-3000rpm for over five minutes to burp the system. Engine runs like garbage below 3000. Car will run about three minutes before the coolant gauge goes high and I have to shut it down. Again, it's about 10F outside. Check engine light is on.
There are lots of bubbles coming out of the coolant tank.
I'm thinking it's a blown head gasket. I don't want to start the car because if there is liquid in a cylinder I will hydraulic the piston, con rod and crank.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:53 AM   #504
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MY-98
Miles-108k
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I currently have 140k on my 98 Outback. My headgasket blew at 108k in Jan 2006. Replaced them myself and has been trouble free since.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:49 PM   #505
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MY - '96 Outback Wagon (2.5)
Miles -195k
4EAT

Bought with a "blown headgasket", turned out to be two leaking hoses and a stuck thermostat. Still going strong now.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:12 PM   #506
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mine blew at 98,000 on the 99 GT....had the whole engine overhauled
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:16 AM   #507
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MY - 97
Miles - 168k
A/T
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just blew. don't have the money to get them fixed
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:42 PM   #508
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Legacy sorry ej25 phase I

Just had Smart Service here in Seattle do it up right. Second round of head-gasket redux on my '99 GT Sedan (1st round was at ~72k miles). ~156,000 Miles... got a new radiator, water pump, re-seal pwr stearing, seals, and on and on. Paid a relatively pretty penny, but hey... it's a great car, them dudes do good work, and I'm gonna love rally'n my tuned-the-way-I-like-it GT for another 75k miles at least. Perfect setup for how and where I go!
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:27 AM   #509
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2000 Legacy L wagon
142,000miles
Auto
Just got the diagnosis today. $1600 for HG and timing belt.

However, the engine was replaced under warranty at 50,000miles in '03. Wonder if the WWP-99 warranty would still apply, Any thoughts?
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:24 AM   #510
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2002 Legacy GT Wagon
68,XXX

Left side leaking, right side weeping, getting both done. Also going to replace some pistons because of piston slap, all under warranty.

Looks like I may have finally found a good dealer.

Peace,

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:23 PM   #511
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1997 Subaru Legacy L w/Outback front.
Mileage - 188xxx.
Fluids - Full Synthetic (FS) Engine Oil (Mobil 1), FS Front Differential Fluid, FS Rear Differential Fluid.
The car has only had 2 'real' mechanical repairs since it's time @ Hertz. It had an alternator replaced & it had it's starter replaced 2 weeks ago. No head gasket issues here. Just some knocking noise that won't get lost.
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Old 07-19-2009, 09:25 AM   #512
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I'm a Legacy owner (with 2 or 3 blown HG's of my own), but this is for my wifes car (she is original owner)...

MY 1999
Impreza L wagon 2.2L 5MT
112,000 miles
Probable blown HG
I use Valvoline durablend for oil, Prestone for coolant but no added "conditioner".

Just did water pump, TB & tensioner, all hoses, OEM cap & thermostat, plugs & coolant change.
Work done because it was due as well as it had been pushing coolant out recently along with the wierd temp gauge jumps. Still looks to be pushing coolant out.

Compression test shows all 4 cylinders @ 180-190PSI! I didn't do a leakdown test though.
No oil in coolant/no coolant in oil, no steam from the tailpipe.
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:01 AM   #513
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My-98
Miles-127k
trans- 5Mt

HG failure at that mileage after buying the car, got 215 miles sucked coolant...bye bye bottom end.

Replaced with a ej25 SOHC short block out of an rs, 6k miles, bye bye bottom end (had a slight rod knock to start)

Replaced finally with Ellen who continues to eat transmission, currently eating away her second.

However I did get a ej25 DOHC engine from the yard to part out with the stock gaskets 127k miles and no signs of failing
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:18 AM   #514
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97 2.2
200k
5sp MT

I know nothing of these motors, but the idiot gauge went to H, filled her back up with coolant, drove some more to see it creeping back up after 50 or so miles, pop the hood to see her pissing coolant like a mother (passenger side of the block, leaking on the opposite side when attempting to refill...wtf)... this was supposed to be a functional daily while my DSM broke every time I drive it

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:31 PM   #515
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Currently replacing both head gaskets... was going to just swap in a JDM I bought off of ebay but just figured out that it has AVCS which I'm told isn't plug and play...
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:09 AM   #516
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MY99 Legacy 2.5GT
Automatic
112k miles right now

Ive had my crank pulley and key break and that was about it for major mechanical issues... Im hoping my HG doesnt blow, sighs!*
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:33 PM   #517
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98 Outback
Manual Transmission
Headgasket blew and warped the block at 170,000 miles

I got a different car, but my father in law replaced the head gasket himself since the shop said that it was debatable whether the block was warped enough to not hold a seal or not. The car's been fine for a year and a half since he did that.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:10 PM   #518
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1998 Subaru Legacy Outback
Mileage 198,956
M/T
Engine overheated at above mentioned milage, got it checked and found out it was the head gaskets, mechanic said if replaced, it wouldn't last 6 months but i did anyway replaced both and one head and that solved the problem...been good for 2 years then i had the oil seperator plate go.....guess it was the heat that messed up the plastic one....in the process of changing the engine to ej20r....hope it works
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:27 AM   #519
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Mileage: ~145k
5 speed sedan

I have not had any problems yet *knocking on wood* though I have the new car as well so the 99 is not driven as much but I switch off.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:12 PM   #520
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MY - 2002 Forester
Mileage: 96000 mi
Automatic
Blown HG both sides.

Got the initial dose of conditioner at 40,000. External weeping started at 60,000 miles. Drove it this way until 80,000 mi when dealer applied a second dose of Subaru Conditioner that stopped the weeping. At 95,000 miles, suddenly significant loss of coolant from external leak. System couldn't hold pressure. Was out of the WWP-99 warranty by a few months, and SOA stuck me with 1/2 bill.

Dealer and SOA corporate said that two doses of conditioner is standard practice before replacing HG's.

Dealer indicated they do at least a dozen of these a month.

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Old 12-17-2009, 11:13 AM   #521
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00LGT LTD- HG's weeping at 127k. Swapped in EJ205 and no more problem

97LGT- HGs replaced at ~90k (catastrophic failure) and ~183k (weeping). Threw in the towel and installed an EJ251 block with newer DOHC heads at 187k.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:33 PM   #522
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1998
220,000ish MILES
Auto

Recently resealed this LGT wagon and, hence the GT part, it is a 2.5 DOHC, no history of overheating and the owners have imaculate records and there was no evidence of anyone having gone into the motor before (cyl. heads/block werent scored from previous cleaning). Oh and we did the HG's because the motor was out to reseal the back of the engine NOT because it was overheating! Having worked at a subaru dealership for 4 years I think this has to be some sort of record lol!
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:51 PM   #523
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Subaru of America is saving millions of dollars by responding inadequately to known problems with leaking head gaskets in its 2.5 L 1999-2002 engines. Information is being compiled for publication of newspaper and magazine reports and a class action lawsuit in connection with WWP-99, Subaru’s service bulletin, which acknowledges the external coolant leak problems.
In transparent, profit-motivated efforts, Subaru is hiding behind a smoke screen with a band-aid coolant approach to pushing engines beyond the 100,000 mile mark, at which time warranties expire and the ‘stop leak’ coolant creates critical damage to engines. This product stops up radiators and causes engines to overheat. The number of Subaru engines with recurring head gasket and overheating problems needs to be documented, and brought to the attention of the public and National Transportation Safety Board.
Subaru’s inadequate Customer Service response to these costly head gasket repairs is turning many loyal Subaru owners away. Subaru owners with leaking head gasket and overheating problems may send their reports and comments regarding such problems to: subaruinquiry@sbcglobal.net. Please include your e-mail and telephone number.


I purchased a Subaru 2001 Forester after doing extensive research to find a car with low maintenance costs, longevity, good fuel economy, and safety. My Forester has been the most expensive vehicle I’ve ever maintained. This car began having overheating problems as soon as I purchased it. The radiator was replaced. Soon after, I received the recall for adding special ‘coolant’ to postpone the ultimate damage caused by leaking head gaskets. This car leaked incessantly and I was always adding coolant. In 2007, my Forester began smelling hot. $3,000 later, a number of repairs were made including a new water pump, oil cooler, timing belt, and head gaskets. In June 2008, coolant was still leaking. My Subaru overheated, leading to a complete meltdown of the engine. The repair bill is $6,000-$7,000.

Please help me in documenting head gasket and overheating problems and taking action to make Subaru pay for its irresponsibile handling of these problems.
not to rain on anyones paraid or to say that you and your people are wrong but for the coolant additive to work it needs to be in the system AT ALL TIMES, IE if you have your coolant flushed at an idependent and they dont add the additive you will run the risk of an external leak and or overheating that can lead to catasrtophic failure. It IS staited in the original recall that up to 2 bottles of coolant additive is required before the headgaskets are to be replaced. Also I have never seen a plugged radiator or heater core due to Subaru coolant additive and it should have been/still being added to all cars serviced at a dealership since the recall began. Also I've been told by many sorces that this additive will not coagulate until it comes in contact with oxygen. Just my two cents not trying to start some sort of war with those on the oposit end. Also subaru's new "Super Coolant", we're being told, has the additive in it already.

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Old 12-18-2009, 02:59 AM   #524
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I'll always refuse to use the conditioner. In my opinion having MLS gaskets is the fix.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:20 PM   #525
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I'll always refuse to use the conditioner. In my opinion having MLS gaskets is the fix.
Yea that works to LOL. Guy I work with used to build 2.5na motors for sand rails, used cometic hg's, no more leaks. Deffinatly worth it if your going to do HG's and want to keep the car for awhile.
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