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Old 09-22-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Wel lI have had my 2013 for about 3 weeks now and have been loving it since the day I picked it up. What I am looking to do is a good reliable stock block car for a daily and want it to last a long time. I have already started doing the mods to the car that I can while I wait for Cobb to release support for the 2013s. In the end I would be content with +/-300whp with decent drivability and good reliability. Anything that will help the car spool faster or anything like that is worth it to me as well.

So far the mods I have done are:
TiC Super Shifter Kit


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Now my question is for my end goal what should I do to the car performance wise? My thoughs were Nameless Downpipe(Catted), Process West Top Mount, Cobb SF Intake w/ Box, and an Aeromotive 340lph fuel pump, all buttoned up with a dyno tune. Are up-pipes with or without EWG worth it? I also see nameless is working on headers/manifolds would these be worth waiting for before I go past stage 2 and get the dyno tune? Anything else I should add to my list or anything I should change performance wise?
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:28 AM   #2
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Just remember that the more power you add, the more likely you will need engine or transmission rebuild. For reliability, I would wait for a bit to make nothing breaks due to factory defects before adding more power.

I would still do a stage 1 tune. I had feedback knock completely stock on my 2012 WRX with 93 octane. Had very minor amounts of knock on the Cobb map too. Currently running torque performance stage 1 and it is running great.

Parts list looks pretty good. Consider a set of 22 mm whileline sways and kartboy endlinks. Car felt so much more planted.

I'm getting a nameless cat back with 5" mufflers and resonated mid pipe. Can't wait for it to arrive.

I think most people will tell you that ewg is not worth it on stock turbo. I remember reading a post on here about that, which said that ewg on stock turbo is still decent and will help with spool. I would find the thread yourself and read it. I may remember incorrectly on the ewg part of my post.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:10 AM   #3
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Started a thread in the suspension forum about all that stuff. The plan is to do all the suspension and other mods before stage 2 which will give me time to find any defects in the engine n trans.

In due time I will start building another engine for the car which will be completely built. As for the trans I am not sure of what options I have and can't seem to find what these newer trans can take.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:27 AM   #4
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Find a good tuner (local or an e-tuner) and tell them your power goals. Then listen and do what they say.

Keep in mind that 300/300 on one dyno could be different from another dyno. But as long as you're satisfied with the power, numbers are just a guideline.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Clark Turner does an awesome job. I heard the nameless a couple days ago in person and it sounds amazing. I also did the suspension first and it changed the whole car for the better.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:44 PM   #6
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If all you would like is around 300whp, then stage 2 with a good tune will get u there. The intercooler may not even be necessary.

An EWG on the stock turbo is not a bad idea, but again not necessary for your goal. Also, they work great with the vf52 for holding higher boost and better control of that boost.

Im not a huge fan of changing out the headers, up pipe and such. I just don't see the need for it unless you want bigger numbers. Stage 2 should be made simple. Save that money for other Mods like you have already begun with.

Good luck with the car.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:56 PM   #7
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Read post #4 again. Now stop being pig headed and really read post #4 again. That is the key to you concentrating on getting what you want while spending the LEAST amount of money. By listening to other advice you will talk yourself info an expensive circle-jerk and do nothing.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:25 PM   #8
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Find a good tuner (local or an e-tuner) and tell them your power goals. Then listen and do what they say.

Keep in mind that 300/300 on one dyno could be different from another dyno. But as long as you're satisfied with the power, numbers are just a guideline.
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Read post #4 again. Now stop being pig headed and really read post #4 again. That is the key to you concentrating on getting what you want while spending the LEAST amount of money. By listening to other advice you will talk yourself info an expensive circle-jerk and do nothing.
Any advice on a good e-tuner? Sorry for the thread jack, but I liked the advice being given and thought that a bump might help too!
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:40 PM   #9
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www.torquedperformance.com
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:36 PM   #10
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E-tune: Torqued Performance

Dyno: IAG Performance is 4 hours away from you
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:44 PM   #11
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Downpipe + pro tune will get you what you are looking for. Keep in mind Subaru may reject any warranty work on the drivetrain if you do these mods. If that is not ok with you then get a Cobb AP and a TP Stage 1 map and call it a day. Then if you need to go to dealer just unmarry the AP and take it in.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:04 PM   #12
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Downpipe + pro tune will get you what you are looking for. Keep in mind Subaru may reject any warranty work on the drivetrain if you do these mods. If that is not ok with you then get a Cobb AP and a TP Stage 1 map and call it a day. Then if you need to go to dealer just unmarry the AP and take it in.
just out of curiosity, if something DID happen that would require warranty work done while on a tune, why can't you just put the stock tune back on? Can Subaru pull up your car's tune history?
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you have to remove the parts that you added on then flash back because your car will not run correctly and have more problems to deal with.
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just out of curiosity, if something DID happen that would require warranty work done while on a tune, why can't you just put the stock tune back on? Can Subaru pull up your car's tune history?


You would have to remove the aftermarket parts, remove the tune, and hope Subaru does not suspect anything and check my ECU. Not to mention that is dishonest.
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Any advice on a good e-tuner? Sorry for the thread jack, but I liked the advice being given and thought that a bump might help too!
Turbotek tuning is a great e tuner his name is ray and he is a real good guy.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:37 PM   #17
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As I stated in another thread my plans have changed.

Sitting at my house next week will be:
Nameless down pipe
Process west intercooler
Dw65c fuel pump
Accessport


What I want to know is what Max whp can I make on a stock engine? I have no issue buying a bloutch or amr turbo and some injectors to get a good safe number.

Suggestions on what to do?
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As I stated in another thread my plans have changed.

Sitting at my house next week will be:
Nameless down pipe
Process west intercooler
Dw65c fuel pump
Accessport


What I want to know is what Max whp can I make on a stock engine? I have no issue buying a bloutch or amr turbo and some injectors to get a good safe number.

Suggestions on what to do?
There's no magic number of what you can make on a stock motor; too many variables. What are your plans for the car? You haven't mentioned that yet.
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I would keep it under 350whp for both the engine and transmission's sake.
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Car will be my daily but it will occasionally see some track/auto-x time n possibly some rally use.
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If it's your daily, then keep it at stage 2.
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I am already dead set on what torqued performance calls stage 3. Which is stage 2 plus the intercooler fuel pump and ebcs
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I am already dead set on what torqued performance calls stage 3. Which is stage 2 plus the intercooler fuel pump and ebcs
That's what I'm running and its great. Honestly I got dynoed and its putting down some impressive numbers for just a stage 2 set up plus intercooler/FP.
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I am already dead set on what torqued performance calls stage 3. Which is stage 2 plus the intercooler fuel pump and ebcs
Sounds like a good, dependable plan. The difference over stock will amaze you.
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Car will be my daily but it will occasionally see some track/auto-x time n possibly some rally use.
For daily driving/auto-x/rally, the stock turbo with all the bolt-ons will be the best turbo, to be honest. A bigger turbo is just going to shift your powerband to the right, which is the opposite of what you want for the type of driving you do.
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