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Old 03-06-2012, 09:28 PM   #1626
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:16 AM   #1627
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None of the kewl kids drive Subaru's anymore anyway. It's all about race cars and turbo pick up trucks!!!
You mean I'm not cool?

It's weird, so many times now I see someone driving a wrx and they don't even seem to know you're supposed to wave. /grumpyoldman

The bugeyes and blobeyes are teh neu Hondars.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #1628
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You mean I'm not cool?

It's weird, so many times now I see someone driving a wrx and they don't even seem to know you're supposed to wave. /grumpyoldman

The bugeyes and blobeyes are teh neu Hondars.
I disagree with the last statement

Those that don't wave just aren't enthusiasts.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:58 PM   #1629
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I wave evey chance i get.... But a lot of the times its only because my gf thinks its dumb.
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:18 PM   #1630
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I don't get any waves. I drive a fozzie.

I did feel a bit odd waving at some WRX owners up in Sault Ste Marie over the last 8 weeks. I was driving an Equinox or Outlander at the time. I'm sure they were confused .
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:10 PM   #1631
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none of the people that have newer cars wave anymore, I wave at everyone and rarely get a wave back


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Old 03-12-2012, 02:46 PM   #1632
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none of the people that have newer cars wave anymore, I wave at everyone and rarely get a wave back


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I'll remember to wave next time I see you, even if it's just in your driveway at a BBQ .
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:05 AM   #1633
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I think I get waves back less than half the time. I started a spotted in southeast Michigan thread a while ago but didn't get many responses.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:17 PM   #1634
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I've seen a lot of WRXs in the clarkston area, we should all meet up!
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:16 PM   #1635
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Meet up? Lets all sign up for an open track day at Waterford Hills.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:42 PM   #1636
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:12 AM   #1637
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Sounds like fun. Has anybody driven there and is it worth $150 for open track day? How long are you on track? First date is April 29th. I'm running stock 2011 wrx and might like to try it out.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #1638
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Sounds like fun. Has anybody driven there and is it worth $150 for open track day? How long are you on track? First date is April 29th. I'm running stock 2011 wrx and might like to try it out.
I want to see if we can just rent the track out for a day. But it's fairly expensive, so we'd need a lot of people.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:08 PM   #1639
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Sounds like fun. Has anybody driven there and is it worth $150 for open track day? How long are you on track? First date is April 29th. I'm running stock 2011 wrx and might like to try it out.
I've done a Waterford event before. Good group to run with. Only thing I didn't like was the fact you can't have passengers.

Sessions are 15-20 min long IIRC. I think I did 3-4 during the day and I could have done one more but I was tired.

I'll be calling that track home this season since I'm racing my '85 GTi there.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:34 PM   #1640
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Sounds like fun. Has anybody driven there and is it worth $150 for open track day? How long are you on track? First date is April 29th. I'm running stock 2011 wrx and might like to try it out.
You'll want better brake fluid and brake pads before you hit the race track. Stock fluid will likely boil and your pedal will get soft. Stock pads will likely get too hot and you risk melting them and losing all braking ability (scary!). Either plan on running at 50% of full potential or look into track-specific brake pads, at least for the front of the car.

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I want to see if we can just rent the track out for a day. But it's fairly expensive, so we'd need a lot of people.
Rental would be expensive and you'd need an insurance carrier. There are a few decent groups you can run with. Most of them take care of rental, insurance, and pizza or sandwiches for lunch as part of your $150 fee.

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I've done a Waterford event before. Good group to run with. Only thing I didn't like was the fact you can't have passengers.

Sessions are 15-20 min long IIRC. I think I did 3-4 during the day and I could have done one more but I was tired.

I'll be calling that track home this season since I'm racing my '85 GTi there.
Racing as in SCCA Club racing, or just doing a few track days with 3-balls? I think I'll be ~5 miles from Waterford Hills after I move.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:20 PM   #1641
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You'll want better brake fluid and brake pads before you hit the race track. Stock fluid will likely boil and your pedal will get soft. Stock pads will likely get too hot and you risk melting them and losing all braking ability (scary!). Either plan on running at 50% of full potential or look into track-specific brake pads, at least for the front of the car.


Rental would be expensive and you'd need an insurance carrier. There are a few decent groups you can run with. Most of them take care of rental, insurance, and pizza or sandwiches for lunch as part of your $150 fee.


Racing as in SCCA Club racing, or just doing a few track days with 3-balls? I think I'll be ~5 miles from Waterford Hills after I move.
Yeah at minimum, get new pads and good brake fluid. Also agree w/Bradford that renting the track is very expensive. Maybe when I win the lottery, I'll rent the track for you chodes for no cost.

Racing as in Waterford Hills club racing. $775 for six two day events (Saturday -qualies/race, Sunday - race) can't be beat.

I'll also be running it in a couple Rally America events in the future (LSPR in year 20?? and Sno*Drift 2013) since the cage I've designed will be legal for both rulesets. Car is being re-caged right now by my buddy Matt/Bent Mettle Racing. Should be done and back home to Dearborn by the end of this month.

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Old 03-20-2012, 01:16 AM   #1642
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I think I'll be ~5 miles from Waterford Hills after I move.
I'm still 2-3 miles and haven't been in years With baby #5 on the way doubt I'll make it this year either.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:58 PM   #1643
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Racing as in Waterford Hills club racing. $775 for six two day events (Saturday -qualies/race, Sunday - race) can't be beat.

I'll also be running it in a couple Rally America events in the future (LSPR in year 20?? and Sno*Drift 2013) since the cage I've designed will be legal for both rulesets. Car is being re-caged right now by my buddy Matt/Bent Mettle Racing. Should be done and back home to Dearborn by the end of this month.

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Improved Touring of some variety?
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:08 PM   #1644
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ITB Probably get my arse handed to me since I've got an 8v but whatever, it's real racing.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:03 PM   #1645
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You'll want better brake fluid and brake pads before you hit the race track.
Any advice from y'all for what brand pad upgrade on a daily driver, I wouldn't want full race spec pads that make tons of noise. And who has jack stands and wants to teach me how to bleed brakes? I am in an apartment on uneven ground and basically cant do anything on my own.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:41 PM   #1646
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Any advice from y'all for what brand pad upgrade on a daily driver, I wouldn't want full race spec pads that make tons of noise. And who has jack stands and wants to teach me how to bleed brakes? I am in an apartment on uneven ground and basically cant do anything on my own.
Carbotech XP8's front and rear along with ATE Super Blue(or gold) fluid will do you just fine for your first time out. They will make some noise but won't be unbearable. You should replace your rotors too so there will be no issue bedding in your new pads.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:42 AM   #1647
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He said pads that don't make a ton of noise. XP8, 10, 12 are full-bore track pads. Clayton's car sounds like a city transit bus when he hits the brakes (XP10's). That said, there is no better way to do it than to have a set of dedicated track pads and a set of dedicated street pads, and Carbotech's track pads are fantastic.

The three characteristics of pads which people tend to care about are dust, noise, and thermal capacity. They are not mutually exclusive. If you want more thermal capacity you have to put up with more dust and noise. If you want less dust and noise you sacrifice stopping power.

If you can manage to hold yourself back on the track and only run 70-80% and not push the car/brakes too hard you might get away with the Stoptech Street Performance pads. They are more of a street pad, but I think the max operating temp is around 1200*F, which is up near the range of true track pads. They simply don't last as long at those temps as a track pad will. After 20 minutes you'll feel the brakes getting soft where true track pads just don't care.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:58 PM   #1648
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I've done a Waterford event before. Good group to run with. Only thing I didn't like was the fact you can't have passengers.

Sessions are 15-20 min long IIRC. I think I did 3-4 during the day and I could have done one more but I was tired.

I'll be calling that track home this season since I'm racing my '85 GTi there.

I did a few track days there last year with 3 balls, the Alfa club and Waterford and they were allowing passengers. Not sure if it was a recent rule change or not.

But like you said, sessions are usually 15-20 minutes, and you normally get at least 4 sessions per day. That depends on how many participants there are usually, and that there arent any um.. complications on the track. But if you wanted more track time you should stick around till the end of the day. Last year they were allowing some people to run 2 or 3 different sessions right in a row because almost everyone had left.

They have instructors available for anyone who wants one, and a drivers meeting in the morning where they explain almost everything youll need to know (pay attention to the flags people, please)

Anyways, its a fun event and WELL worth the price so ill be there again for sure.
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:45 AM   #1649
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He said pads that don't make a ton of noise. XP8, 10, 12 are full-bore track pads.
Had XP8's on my WRX. They didn't make a "ton of noise." Sorry. Daily drove with them as well.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:10 PM   #1650
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He said pads that don't make a ton of noise. XP8, 10, 12 are full-bore track pads.
So after reading a bit about the carbotech x series it sounds like truly they are for the track only. The company does not recommend for street use, and probably if you use them under everyday conditions you will screw your pads and rotors with uneven deposits because you never get up to proper operating temp. Any of you that are really hitting the track, do you switch out your pads? Is anyone using the autocross spec pads? Just curious to see what works in the real world.
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