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Old 09-24-2009, 09:23 PM   #151
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imo, DIY injector mods are a bad idea unless you like spending money on a new engine. I got my set of flowmatched modified 816cc injectors from Witchhunter for $390 shipped and I can still send in my stockers for a $160 core refund. So in the end it will end up being $230 for the new set of injectors. If that is too expensive for a quality fuel upgrade, well...
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:07 PM   #152
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imo, DIY injector mods are a bad idea unless you like spending money on a new engine. I got my set of flowmatched modified 816cc injectors from Witchhunter for $390 shipped and I can still send in my stockers for a $160 core refund. So in the end it will end up being $230 for the new set of injectors. If that is too expensive for a quality fuel upgrade, well...
as said, im not too knowledgeable about the modding, i just suggested it because it was suggested to me from fuji_k, a pretty smart guy on here that i know personally. he did it for his hybrid build and it's been holding for a good while now in his 12 sec. wagon that started as a regular stock 2.2l impreza outback.

what you said sounds great though. i didnt know it was that cheap.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:24 PM   #153
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what's up sai (thor)?? how you been man?

i ditched the AP and went opensource from Clint. what do you have now in the rex?

tubbs450, why not just mod your stock injectors?
Idk....

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imo, DIY injector mods are a bad idea unless you like spending money on a new engine. I got my set of flowmatched modified 816cc injectors from Witchhunter for $390 shipped and I can still send in my stockers for a $160 core refund. So in the end it will end up being $230 for the new set of injectors. If that is too expensive for a quality fuel upgrade, well...
Pls link me.... I wouldn't mind a set of those and those are a lot more affordable, i was thinking about going with deatschwerks 750s and those would be 299 after the 100 dollar rebate for the stockers... but if i could get 816's for even cheaper.... then that would be great..

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Tubbs --> oh wow.. you have no idea what potential you can have then.. talk to Clint about open source and having him tune your car.. its probably VERY dangerous for you to not be tuned..

If your not working this Saturday morning/afternoon feel free to stop on by when Clint is working on my car or Dmans..

His pricing should be much cheaper than purchasing an AP - I believe he normally just charges per hour and perhaps could even quote you a flat rate.
Okay thanks for the info, and i did get a hold of clint... and i am going to have him tune my car But... he told me to meet him at Christina's house. One i have no clue who that is, where they live, or how to get there lol.. also i am going to a brewers game on sat night at 6 so what time is he going to start tuning? I dont think there would be anything nicer than to drive my freshly tuned car down to Milwaukee . Thanks for the info =D

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Old 09-24-2009, 11:04 PM   #154
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LOL, Christina is me.

PM me for my addy.. I believe we are going to start on my car around 10am per Clint.
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:20 AM   #155
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i've seen you before. one time last year at walmart (again). you were parked. i parked close to you and was checking out you're car a bit right as you were out walking towards it. you looked at me like i was some sort of snobby asian thief looking to jack your stuff so you bust out the keyless remote and chirped the horn. me and my gf were like .

i was wondering how you felt after going over and seeing that i had a wrx too. well, you probably didnt even think it would've been mine but anyway, funny stuff.

so what mods you have so far?

edit: have clint tune you. his rates are great and he does incredible tunes.
Haha this is funny.. i dont remember it.. but i literally lol'd when i read this.. Im not sure if the chirp thing was what my intentions were, but if i was u i wudda called me a prick and called it a day lol... I normally wave/talk to other subie owners so i didn't see that you had a wrx, but i wish i woulda...

I also wish i woulda started posting on this forum sooner cause theres some pretty cool people on here, very nice and generous, even though i haven't met any of you yet...

Im stoked for the tune on Saturday!!!
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:36 AM   #156
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yea i finally got my car running. so hows the opensource tune compared to the ap?
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what's up sai (thor)?? how you been man?

i ditched the AP and went opensource from Clint. what do you have now in the rex?

tubbs450, why not just mod your stock injectors?
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:44 AM   #157
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yea i finally got my car running. so hows the opensource tune compared to the ap?
dude, the opensource PWNS the AP's ots map.

im peaking 20 pounds of boost. clint is awesome!
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:45 AM   #158
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dude, the opensource PWNS the AP's ots map.

im peaking 20 pounds of boost. clint is awesome!

What are your mods?
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:25 AM   #159
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What are your mods?
just uppipe and downpipe w/sti cbe. it's a simple setup. im not fast fast, just fast enough for me (for now).

i want to pick up a vf39 or 16g but i have many other things that need to be taken care of before i get more power mods.
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Old 09-25-2009, 06:45 AM   #160
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wooofta, both you and Franz are pushing 20 pounds o boost?
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:36 AM   #161
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Meh, what's so crazy about 20lbs? I suspect I will run 19-20 after this tune...
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:22 AM   #162
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wooofta, both you and Franz are pushing 20 pounds o boost?
I was thinkin' the same thing. That's a lot of boost - at least for a WRX with a stock turbo. Even though I upgraded to a 16g, I had Jorge tune it to a conservative 18 pounds.

Going beyond that on the stock tubo starts getting out of the efficiency range anyway. And regardless of what turbo your running, going beyond 18psi means your pushing the cylinder pressure and heat to where it starts to take a toll on those stock internals.

Sure, with a good tune you can get away with it for a while - several years probably. But if you want to increase the odds of having anywhere near a "normal" life expectancy out of the engine (I'm talking 100k+ here), conventional wisdom says 18psi is about as far as you want to go.

I guess it all depends on how long you want to wait until you have swap in an STI short block
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:48 AM   #163
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Oh yeah, forgot the WRX vs STI thing... hehe.
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:59 AM   #164
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Almost any upgraded turbo loves 18-20 psi. But the stock WRX turbo.....
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:59 AM   #165
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Hey Kyle, when we are at Crispy's, can you take a glance at my passenger side door lock? It will not lock (manually or via the remote). I think that it isn't connected properly (you can still hear the lock actuator trying to work).

Goof: Stock TD04 can still do 17-18 though....
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:10 AM   #166
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interesting to hear... I just like to refer to myself as a "safety girl"

I try to be as smart as possible when it comes to my car in regards to mods.. after owning multiple cars in which I took it so extreme which later caused driveability issues (especially in the case of my past show car) I no longer want to be in that situation again..

Breaking down on the beltline or blowing an engine and having to come up with unexpected large expenses is not my idea of fun.

Subarus are uber reliable and fun.. once you start making your car unpredictable or unreliable is where its downright stupid in my opinion. (Unless you have crazy disposable income and time and like taking it in the arse)
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:13 AM   #167
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Meh, what's so crazy about 20lbs? I suspect I will run 19-20 after this tune...
I am on 21psi for the street tune and he started to tune on 26psi for the race tune but, he never got that one finished up.

Also: My motor is back out and on a stand again. Goal is to make it to the shootout this coming year with a fully functioning/well tuned car.

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Old 09-25-2009, 11:15 AM   #168
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shootout this year?

do you mean next year? Or is there another Suby Shootout at Byron that I dont know about?
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:18 AM   #169
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Goal is to make it to the shootout this coming year with a fully functioning/well tuned car.

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shootout this year?

do you mean next year? Or is there another Suby Shootout at Byron that I dont know about?
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:36 AM   #170
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I am on 21psi for the street tune and he started to tune on 26psi for the race tune but, he never got that one finished up.

Also: My motor is back out and on a stand again. Goal is to make it to the shootout this coming year with a fully functioning/well tuned car.

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Yeah, you guys rockin' forged internals - you're in a whole different league. . .
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:05 PM   #171
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I disagree that 18psi is a magic number that you must not exceed. Peaking at 19-20 psi is perfectly acceptable for the td04 and the efficiency issue all depends on the rpm and how much air flow there is. 20psi at 3krpm is a heck of a lot different than 20psi at 5krpm - way different cfm.

As for the safety issue 20psi is safe on the stock internals provided the rest of the tune is setup for it and you are running the correct fuel (93 octane). EGT's are not an issue on the td04 since it's only going that high very early in the pull for a short time. I have tuned several bug eyes w/ vf39/16g/etc that are capable of holding boost for way longer than the poor little td04 is capable of and they don't magically explode at 20psi.
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Well have fun tuning my car to whatever you want. I am not a conservative guy, but I don't want it wreckless either.


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I disagree that 18psi is a magic number that you must not exceed. Peaking at 19-20 psi is perfectly acceptable for the td04 and the efficiency issue all depends on the rpm and how much air flow there is. 20psi at 3krpm is a heck of a lot different than 20psi at 5krpm - way different cfm.

As for the safety issue 20psi is safe on the stock internals provided the rest of the tune is setup for it and you are running the correct fuel (93 octane). EGT's are not an issue on the td04 since it's only going that high very early in the pull for a short time. I have tuned several bug eyes w/ vf39/16g/etc that are capable of holding boost for way longer than the poor little td04 is capable of and they don't magically explode at 20psi.
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:28 PM   #173
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Im stoked for the tune on Saturday!!!
I got your e-mail... I'll fit you in somewhere... Just show up at Christina's house.. the earlier the better...

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Well have fun tuning my car to whatever you want. I am not a conservative guy, but I don't want it wreckless either.
I always have fun. And I try very very hard not to be reckless. Imo I am much more conservative than most of the pro/e-tuners in the area where it counts the most - knock and drive-ability.

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Old 09-25-2009, 12:37 PM   #174
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I trust ya. I'll be there 2ish. 2 hour drive and I work tomorrow so I'll get there as soon as I can.
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:09 PM   #175
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We should have a meet next week.
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