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Old 09-17-2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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Looking for guidance on winterizing my 02 Bugeye wagon. I have a block heater that thats place of the core plug. What's the best way to get this task done? What are some other tips and ideas for getting my Cali suby ready for the Alaksan winter?? Thank you fo you opinions!!

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Old 09-17-2009, 01:27 PM   #2
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you need a 10MM allen socket, pipe thread dope, a tub to catch the coolant that comes out, a gallon of "subaru" antifreeze, some zip ties, and fast hands. Get the car in the air, put the tub on top of a trashcan to get it closer to the bottom of the car, cover the block heater threads with pipe dope, as you pull the freeze plug out you can slip the block heater up and, if you're fast enough, you won't spill any antifreeze, so you can take your $40 gallon of coolant back to continental. But DO NOT use generic coolant. Use only "Subaru" coolant in your newer than 2000 subaru.

Other things you can do are get a battery blanket, change to a lighter weight oil, put studded tires on, get an autostart... but the block heater is the main thing, it saves your engine big time.
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Old 09-17-2009, 02:29 PM   #3
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Get studless winter tires. I've heard good things about blizzaks.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:37 PM   #4
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Rallyarmor mudflaps-if you don't already have them.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:08 PM   #5
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Studless winter tires blow in our freeze-thaw-freeze climate. Get hankook i*Pike W409's. The most cost effective winter tire out there, except for maybe the General Altimax Arctic's. Which is cheaper, with the same tread and sipe pattern, but harder rubber compound therefor longer lasting.
Really, don't get studless tires, they don't last, and they don't hook as good in a panic situation.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:25 PM   #6
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Don't listen to Arctic. wrcRS, QwikEVO, and I all run Blizzak WS-60s (studless) in the winter and we swear by them.

A Winter Rallycross Series Championship doesn't lie.

Studs are nice when its Icy, but studless you can run all year if need be, and they DO LAST. I have had mine 2 winters so far, and they have tons of tread left on them, despite being a softer compound.

Block heater
Battery blanket
Oil Pan heater (if your ballin like that)
-40* Windshield washer fluid/Ice Melter
Studded/Studless winter tires
A SPARE JACKET AND GLOVES IN YOUR TRUNK
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:25 AM   #7
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This argument will never die... We all swear by something, and there is something to be said for driving style. The last five years have been really icy, and I've had both kinds as well as run all seasons. Studs are my preference.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:31 AM   #8
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Man I went to college in the up which has some sever winters, never had a block heater but the big ak winter has me scared a bit. I forgot all about spare survival gear like a blanket, some water, extra jacket, gloves, ect. I was up here in jan last year and it wasn't all that colder than the up but still you get yourself outside of wasilla or girdwood on a voyage and something happens your screwed if you don't have the right gear.

I picked up a set of mastercraft studded for free I think I'm ganna opt out of using and get myself something a bit better.
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:06 AM   #9
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I have used studless and studded. I prefer studded, but I drive a lot, so just depends.
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:33 AM   #10
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A good battery, block heater and winter tires is about it. If you are travelling alot, a tow strap and some warm clothes would be a good idea too.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:05 AM   #11
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ditto, on the clothes, spare jack, clothes, but the thing i found most useful here was a road flare....i drove my buick in the ditch my first winter here, no one saw my taillights from the road and kept passing, but got a person who was kind enuf to call me a tow truck after getting a flare lit...my mom made me pack flares b4 i left Wa that summer...damn glad i did, and keep a few in everything I drive in the winter now. if you plan on going for a trip might just want one or two. thats my 2 cents.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:21 AM   #12
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Also good for lighting a fire to keep warm.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #13
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Auto starts are great. Get one with a turbo timer so that your car will idle for a while after you shut it down. Chances are if you spend the extra scratch you could get one that starts up every couple hours or so. Be thankful you're not in FAI where people have to leave their cars running all the time in the -30 + weather.
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Old 09-19-2009, 02:40 PM   #14
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Auto Start for a manual trans is a PITA though.
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Old 09-19-2009, 02:49 PM   #15
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Auto Start for a manual trans is a PITA though.
Meh. It's a necessary evil. I'd rather have to fight to install it than not have one!
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:17 PM   #16
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Man I went to college in the up which has some sever winters, never had a block heater but the big ak winter has me scared a bit. I forgot all about spare survival gear like a blanket, some water, extra jacket, gloves, ect. .

I think you'll find winters around anchorage aren't any worse (or even as bad) as U.P.
Water doesn't work to well though, unless you have a method of melting it. If you do, theres plenty of snow sitting around to keep you from dying from dehydration. Maybe a bottle of rum?

Anyways, lots of good info on this thread. Did anyone mention a flashlight? I keep flashlights and headlamps everywhere. It's dark alot up here.

Put a timer on you outlet for your heaters and set it to come on 2-3 hours before you need to leave in the morning.
+1 for oilpan heater, way better than a block heater imho. Of course both is even better yet.

Every fall I hit all my locks with some dry graphite or WD40, frozen locks suck.
I also try to wipe down all my door weatherstripping with WD40 a couple times a winter. Having your door freeze shut really sucks!
Get a good ice scraper and jumper cables. Tow strap might be handy if your not so good on icy roads.

I've now used studless and studded tires, I'm sold on my Blizzak WS60's. I think they perform just as good as studs in all but the very slickest of ice days, and better when theres patches of bare road. Having said that, I'm saving the blizzaks for ice-racing and will run some studs I already have on the street to try and get as much life out of the blizzaks as possible.
Always have an extra pair of gloves in the car for when you forget yours somewhere. A small collapsible avalanch shovel is handy for getting unstuck, as well as something to throw under the tire to get a little traction (I've even used floormats in a pinch)
hmmm....
make sure battery and cables are in good shape, antifreeze is good, lights all work...

Thats all I can think of at the moment.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:52 PM   #17
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I wasn't talking about the install, I was talking about using it.

Might be different now with the never stuff, but my Dad had one in a Ford Ranger with a 5 speed that we put in around 10 years ago. Would have to push the button on the remote while the truck was running with it in neutral and the parking brake set. The dash lights would flash, then you got out, closed the doors and pushed the button again and it would shut off and was set to start.
If you didn't do that, it wouldn't start.
We had a guy at work about 6 years ago bypass all of the safety stuff. The remote got pushed while in his pocket and his little Geo Metro drove about 75 ft and crashed into the corner of a metal building pushing it in about a foot!

I put one on my truck a few years ago and I don't use it much. I go out, fire it up and clean off the windows and leave. The truck could be running 2 hours and it wouldn't build enough heat to defrost the windows anyhow.

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Old 09-20-2009, 03:46 PM   #18
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Yeah I just got a remote start installed yesterday at northstart. Gotta set the e-brake, then you have to press and hold the button until the lights flash, then take the keys out and the car will still be running while you get out and lock the doors with the remote. Once you lock it, it shuts off. Now it's set to start.

It's really not a big of deal as it sounds though. I mean i set the e-brake anyways, and lock the doors anyways. Just have to remember to press that button.

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Old 09-20-2009, 03:56 PM   #19
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Yeah I just got a remote start installed yesterday. Gotta set the e-brake, then you have to press and hold the button until the lights flash, then take the keys out and the car will still be running while you get out and lock the doors with the remote. Once you lock it, it shuts off. Now it's set to start.

It's really not a big of deal as it sounds though. I mean i set the e-brake anyways, and lock the doors anyways. Just have to remember to press that button.
The only pain i have with auto start in standard/manual cars is i will some times forget something in the car and if you ever want to open your car again you have to reset your auto start all over again by going through that whole processes you just talked about again or else it will no longer work. As for automatic they can get in and out of there car and still use their auto start right after with no problem.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:01 PM   #21
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Don't listen to Arctic. wrcRS, QwikEVO, and I all run Blizzak WS-60s (studless) in the winter and we swear by them.
This man doesn't lie.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:04 PM   #22
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I agree with the WS series. I run WS-50's and love them. WS-60's are supposedly better than those so..
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:17 AM   #23
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Get hankook i*Pike W409's. The most cost effective winter tire out there, except for maybe the General Altimax Arctic's. Which is cheaper, with the same tread and sipe pattern, but harder rubber compound therefor longer lasting.
Cool, I had iPike 409's before I moved to CA. Now that I'm back I just got some General Altimax's from tire rack since they were pretty affordable on my budget. The Altimax's had a pretty good rating on tire rack so I hope they are good. I loved w409's.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:02 AM   #24
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The only pain i have with auto start in standard/manual cars is i will some times forget something in the car and if you ever want to open your car again you have to reset your auto start all over again by going through that whole processes you just talked about again or else it will no longer work. As for automatic they can get in and out of there car and still use their auto start right after with no problem.
That whole forgetting something in the car and having to reset the whole thing was the most annoying part when I had my car.

retrac, take notes....lol

I also tend to carry probably more flashlights and spotlights then I'll ever need. I like bright light. Heck, I'd recommend to anyone to get HID's because they make a huge difference in the winter when it's always freakin' dark.

I also love and swear by Blizzak WS-50's and 60's. I've had both, and they are both great. The only time they don't do as well or better then studs is glare, glare wet ice. But you should drive very slowly in those conditions, anyway.
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any dedicated winter wheels are better then all seasons
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