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Old 05-08-2002, 06:47 PM   #1
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Finally someone got a digital shot of my engine-bay. So for those who have not seen it yet....enjoy

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Old 05-08-2002, 07:31 PM   #2
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what can i say? Sweeet!
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:41 PM   #3
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Ooh, that's nice

where can I get me one of them

seriously though, isn't there a shop in the bay area doing these now?

I'd be very interested in something like that.

Especially a coupe.

in silver.

please...
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Old 05-08-2002, 09:36 PM   #4
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we are not a real shop. we are just a bunch of installing nomads that seek nirvana in subaru....ooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:31 PM   #5
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Chris! I PM'd you about the conversion man! Thought I'd give you a heads up. Thanks!
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:10 AM   #6
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...like whoa!!...im in love! How much do i have to save up to do that???
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:25 AM   #7
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EddyRS did it himself, I believe, but Chris (2 posts above yours) does it as a part of his business, email or PM him and I'm sure he'd be willing to give you a quote.

He did Calvin's and at least 2 others that I know of.
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Old 05-09-2002, 02:13 AM   #8
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for the record: eddies was the first one bill and I worked on. There ended up being complications from the donor motor, nothing we did, and we just had to wait until the motor was repaired. Then Eddie and adam and I, put in the motor in.
I do give eddie credit for not going insane while he waited for the repairs
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Old 05-09-2002, 03:37 AM   #9
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My bad, sorry Chris.
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Old 05-09-2002, 11:49 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by christoph1371
for the record: eddies was the first one bill and I worked on. There ended up being complications from the donor motor, nothing we did, and we just had to wait until the motor was repaired. Then Eddie and adam and I, put in the motor in.
I do give eddie credit for not going insane while he waited for the repairs
That must've been frustrating. So, are you guys doing this conversion for people?

I'm curious about how long this takes and all that. It's not something I could do right now... but it's nice to think about.
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:32 PM   #11
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ratboy - It takes about 40 hours of labor. That is turnkey project time. meaning you drive in leave the car and 40 hours later you come back get your keys and drive home
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:39 PM   #12
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Wow- that's not bad!

I wish I still had my RS...

40 hours of labor, so with motor and stuff you're looking at about (really rough guess here) $700O

Look at the time, I gotta go to work!
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:42 PM   #13
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And then the other question is... Is there ANY way to SMOG this? I guess Eddie would know better than Chris, since he's driving the darned thing.

How hard was the wiring for going from RS to WRX?

-Alan (just curious, seems like it might be a fun project)

PS - If Chris or Bill read this, can I get a PM with Bill's number in it? I feel bad for having left my damn springs with him for so long... Been ridiculously busy.
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:12 PM   #14
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yes it is legal. You can get it smogged. you must go to the state referee and have them vefiry that you had a swap done. It is a newrer motor and then your call will have to meet new emission standards, which it will. After that every time you smog your car , it will have to be to the EJ20 standards.

Eddie did try to get his certified by the state referee. They told him, regardless of the whole engine being swapped out, that they will not smog it. The reason was that the car (2000 rs) was still in it's initial warranty/grace period for being smogged. In other words it didn't need to be smogged yet and they WILL NOT do it. Personnaly I think that referee was a retard. I believe that eddie is looking into his retardness further
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:16 PM   #15
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Yeah,
It can be smogged, but it is quite the bureaucratic hassle. We used to do it with Honda swaps when I was a civic guy. You have to take the car in front of a BAR referee and get it cleared. It has to be set up identical to a CA '02 wrx and even if it is a Japanese crate engine, you lie and tell them it is out of a wrecked WRX (for some reason they don't check serial #'s ( With Hondas we'd tell them it was a B16 from a Del Sol). They put it through all the visual and tail-pipe tests and then you get this fancy sticker that tells any smog tech down the road to test it by the WRX's standards and as long as in burns clean, you're golden. And as long as any mods you do don't make it burn foul, the tech will never bat an eye with that sticker on there. But remember, it must be dead bone stock when you go the ref. PM if you have more questions.
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:34 PM   #16
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ok.. I am a little confused here.. what do i do now? do I get it inspected at the BAR referee so i can get the sticker now or should I just wait til when DMV sends me a smog inspection notice?

I thought it was both (inspection and smog) at the same time after the engine swap?
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:36 PM   #17
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I would just wait until it comes time to actually smog it in a year or two if the BAR keeps acting stupid!! It makes no sense though, you'd think they would want to test his car. We were using late 80's Hondas with early 90's engines, so we never encountered this "too new" problem.



I wish I still lived in El Cerrito, so I could see your ride. But Boulder is sweet now that I found a job. I do miss the Bay though
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:36 PM   #18
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it helps that the motors we actually install are from wrecked wrx's. So I get a documentation from the seller that it was wrecked and I got VINs to prove it
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:38 PM   #19
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I remember the process when I did it with my Civic (with of course a 94 delSol B16A3 in it) back in 97, but I was curious if the SMOG Refs were going to be a pain about the turbo with this swap.

I was thinking that maybe the fact that the car was not turbo to begin with might cause problems. But I suppose if the thing burns clean, then they won't have any problem with you.

I'll bet the insurance on a slightly older (98 or so) RS would be so much cheaper than my current one. So would monthly payments. Heh.

Any idea what a complete EJ20 goes for and how hard they are to find?

-Alan
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:41 PM   #20
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Christoph,
Kinda OT, but are US wrecked engines cheaper than JDM crated ones? Just curios cuz I'm still torn about whether to do a swap on my GC8 or get an '02 WRX wagon
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Old 05-09-2002, 01:56 PM   #21
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JDM are cheaper, not legal, and harder to source (get). Also you need to worry about getting parts.

on finding the complete wrx motor/conversion parts... call you local subaru yard. Price varies and you better know what you need.
1. engine w/ mounts
2. ecu
3. harness
4. x-member
5. complete exhaust
6. fuel pump
7. air intake crap
8. intercooler

Those are just the main parts

Honestly, I am in the hunt for a stock jdm in an "l". It would only be a track car and thus it would be legal...on the track
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Old 05-09-2002, 11:06 PM   #22
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So, this could be done to an pre 2002 OBS too, right? Man, that would be sweet!
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Old 05-10-2002, 01:07 AM   #23
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Thanks for the adda-boys.

As for the engine problems.......I now can say that I have detailed knowledge of how every system works in our cars......and that it sucks when you start second guessing your self.

Only thing that kept me from pushing my car out into the street and hoping the garbage truck would hit it, was that I knew that I would figure what was wrong, and that all the work and studying of the wiring diagrams and such would pay off with a fantastic combination: A GC8 body with a WRX/EJ20 powerplant. I wasn't dissapointed.

And after taking it down to the RIM and back with NO problems, I can be confident that the car will run for many years to come. I guess a 900 mile road trip was kind of extreme for a breakin/test drive. Oh well.

After finals I will bring REX down to the bay and show and tell. Plan on seeing me at one of the installs.

Cheers

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Old 05-10-2002, 12:43 PM   #24
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hehehe OBS! If anyone knows of a 98 OBS white for sale let me know.
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Old 05-10-2002, 01:37 PM   #25
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I have a 97 Brisbane Blue OBS w/123K mi ... interested?

EJ20 in an OBS? ... Awesome!
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