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Old 09-23-2009, 04:28 PM   #1
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Default Need tire advice: Have winter set, but want summer/all-season tire advice.

Ok here is the situation. I have three sets of wheels. I know, its too many. In storage, Firestone Winterforce on stock 16" wheels. I just got new 17" wheels that came with almost new Fuzion ZR1 (235/40/17) and I am trying to decide what to do with them. Currently, I am on my almost-bald RE92 stockers and waiting for November to switch to my winters. The summer wheels will not be used until next yr.

I do 50 miles r/t a day, mixed highway (75mph) and local (25mph)with weekends often spent on semi-paved roads.

My question is: use the Fuzions as-is and wear them out, or get some all-seasons. I was thinking ContiExtremeContact or Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus, or Bridgestone RE960A/S. If I am buying new, not sure if I want a dedicated summer set as the weather can be unpredictable here. I am leaning towards just getting the tires I will be able to use longer.

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Old 09-23-2009, 04:58 PM   #2
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i don't understand why you're considering all-seasons when you already have a dedicated winter set of wheels/tires.

drive on the fuzions until it's time to put your winter setup on. in the meantime, do some research on which UHP/MP/XP tire fits your criteria. how much are you looking to spend on summer tires?
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:21 PM   #3
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The thing is I am not sure that I want dedicated summer tires... Will weekend driving on gravel roads not shorten their lives? I am looking for something that will last for more than a season or two and am willing to shell out for something that may be higher quality.
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use the Fuzions as-is and wear them out

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The thing is I am not sure that I want dedicated summer tires... Will weekend driving on gravel roads not shorten their lives? I am looking for something that will last for more than a season or two and am willing to shell out for something that may be higher quality.
you would be better off swapping on and using the winter wheels/tires for your 'weekend driving' and having good summer tires
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:48 PM   #5
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Alright. Sounds like the best/easiest to do will be to keep the Fuzions and wear them out first, then worry about the next set. Good deal. Thanks fellas.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:54 PM   #6
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i don't understand why you're considering all-seasons when you already have a dedicated winter set of wheels/tires.
I live near him (Concord) and have a set of snows and a set of all-seasons. I don't want to run summer tires because they are iffy under 50 degrees, and its possible to get a cold rainy day here even in the middle of the summer. I also do some gravel driving and prefer all-seasons to summers for that.

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you would be better off swapping on and using the winter wheels/tires for your 'weekend driving' and having good summer tires
Except for the time/effort/inconvenience and the rapid wear from using snow tires at summer temperatures.
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I live near him (Concord) and have a set of snows and a set of all-seasons. I don't want to run summer tires because they are iffy under 50 degrees, and its possible to get a cold rainy day here even in the middle of the summer. I also do some gravel driving and prefer all-seasons to summers for that.



Except for the time/effort/inconvenience and the rapid wear from using snow tires at summer temperatures.
well....i suppose if I lived in the rust belt again....id be smart and have a set of summers and a set of Nokians and be done with THAT
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Choices abound! Well the issue may not come up again until spring time again, as I do not think the summer set will be going onto the car between now and November.
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the general exclaim uhp might work, it does have a m&s rating but i have no idea how it does below 50*. it's a UHP so near freezing temps are no bueno, but that shouldn't be much of an issue in the middle of summer.

fairly inexpensive as well: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Exclaim+UHP
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The Exclaim UHP is General Tire's Ultra High Performance Summer tire that was developed for the drivers of sports cars, coupes and sedans. While meeting minimum tread design standards to be "M+S" branded, the Exclaim UHP is designed to provide high levels of traction, response and control in dry conditions, along with superior hydroplaning resistance in wet conditions. We do not suggest Exclaim UHP tires be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.
What the underlined part means is that the tire technically meets the standard for a M+S label. However, that doesn't mean it is actually any good in snow or even in cold wet conditions (hence the last sentence). The rubber in summer tires tends to get hard and loose traction at low temps.
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What the underlined part means is that the tire technically meets the standard for a M+S label. However, that doesn't mean it is actually any good in snow or even in cold wet conditions (hence the last sentence). The rubber in summer tires tends to get hard and loose traction at low temps.
The M & S designation refers only to the tire having a certain % of its contact patch not having rubber and is throwback to the days of tires with circumferential grooves - like on big trucks today- as its only tread pattern. There is otherwise no standard to say it is actually of any use in mud or snow. Back then anything with a tread pattern which was more than a cricumferential rib was thought to impart some sort of improvement in "M & S' traction.

"All season" as a tire designation is not even defined by industry standards except its not a pure winter or summer tire.
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Old 09-24-2009, 03:02 PM   #12
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What the underlined part means is that the tire technically meets the standard for a M+S label. However, that doesn't mean it is actually any good in snow or even in cold wet conditions (hence the last sentence). The rubber in summer tires tends to get hard and loose traction at low temps.
I have these, although I have not tried them in low temps or gravel roads. I do have a set of winter tires though so these will be coming off in Nov. probably. I'm not too worried about driving them in >50* temps as there are plenty of people that use their summer tires year round (my dumbass BIL being one, in his Solstice GXP no less).
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