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Old 09-28-2009, 11:39 AM   #26
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Oh my God! I'm pretty jaded and it takes a lot for me to lust after a car, but this one does it for me. Dayum!
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:14 PM   #27
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I can't find anything to complain about looking at this car.

Weird.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:32 PM   #28
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:02 PM   #29
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I'd punch a baby for this car
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:10 PM   #30
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the words stunning and perfect come to mind...... as does weak checkbook.
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:28 PM   #31
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My gosh, talk about a wonderful machine. The timeless class of the 911, combined with some new kit to make it modern. Fast is an understatement. This thing would be a beast! I am usually for lightly modding classics, but this one is so well done, I cannot hold a grudge!

Just staggering.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:55 PM   #32
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The car is damn near perfect. Remember kids you can get pretty close to this for say 40k:

Used 911 sc 7k
Backdate to rs body panels + flairs + cool interior + widend fuchs: say 10k
3.6l 993 drivetrain: 15k
Paint etc: rest

The parts are almost plug and play for the air cooled cars. There are lots of well done similar hotrods, these guys just chose to combine the best of everything.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:25 PM   #33
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from pelican parts bbs: singer 911 expected price 295K. Not terrible considering the work but again a normal early hotrod 911 would get you pretty close for alot less.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:30 PM   #34
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The car is damn near perfect. Remember kids you can get pretty close to this for say 40k:

Used 911 sc 7k
Backdate to rs body panels + flairs + cool interior + widend fuchs: say 10k
3.6l 993 drivetrain: 15k
Paint etc: rest

The parts are almost plug and play for the air cooled cars. There are lots of well done similar hotrods, these guys just chose to combine the best of everything.
What about all of the internal work/ parts, motons, machine work etc...

Not saying it couldn't be done for cheaper but I think 40k is a good bit of an understatement.
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Thats why I said "pretty close". The singer example is over the top and first class all the way. My 40k example with say konis, 315 hp and fiberglass parts would't be in thsame leauge, but would be before the hook in the diminishing returns curve. An all out hotrod will be closer to 100k and still a good bit below the level of execution of the singer. The motor alone is reported to be 75k. Then again a 10k 300ish hp stock 993 motor in 2400 lb 911 is plenty imho.
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Thats why I said "pretty close". The singer example is over the top and first class all the way. My 40k example with say konis, 315 hp and fiberglass parts would't be in thsame leauge, but would be before the hook in the diminishing returns curve. An all out hotrod will be closer to 100k and still a good bit below the level of execution of the singer. The motor alone is reported to be 75k. Then again a 10k 300ish hp stock 993 motor in 2400 lb 911 is plenty imho.
ah I see yeah the singer is a no holds barred machine
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:41 AM   #37
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Oh my.... that car is gorgeous. It can't possibly be better... Even the engine lid latch piece is baller
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:59 AM   #38
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:09 PM   #39
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Oh my.... that car is gorgeous. It can't possibly be better... Even the engine lid latch piece is baller
Not a fan of the gold. That is actually my only objection with the car...

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Guys, your looking at the only car I would replace my 240Z with. An early wide fender 911 with a warmed over air cooled motor, and an updated tranny. What a beautiful work of art.
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The old, lime-green Porsche 911 classic still attracts attention when it roars through the industrial park in Irvine, Calif.But it's an illusion: This one's not that old, any more anyway.

Drive On recently stopped by Singer Vehicle Design of Los Angeles, a company that's taking apart early-1990s Porsches and rebuilding them into modern wonders. The sheet metal is replaced with carbon-fiber panels. The original air-cooled engine is radically reengineered by Torrance, Calif.-based Cosworth Group, famous for its racing engines. The interior is gets racing-inspired seats and modern amenities.
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The result is the Singer 911, a car that proves even the good old days can stand improvement. "The purpose of this car is not only to capture the golden age of the iconic 911, but bring those best elements together," Singer founder Rob Dickinson told us."

The engine is boosted to 300, 380 or 425 horsepower, depending on the order, from a maximum of about 280 in the original. And it gets beefed up components to handle higher compression. "We like the style of the car and their quest for nothing but the best," says Ken Anderson, Cosworth vice president of sales. "They are very passionate about this."

Performance also is boosted by the carbon fiber skin, which cuts about 400 pounds in weight. It's made by Irvine-based Aria Group, which is better known for building concept cars for auto shows. A six-speed transmission replaces the original five-speed. Widely flared fenders and a rear spoiler that rises at 60 mph make it look race-ready.

The result is a car that can leap from 0 to 60 miles per hour in as little as 3.8 seconds. "It is frighteningly quick," Dickinson says.

Frighteningly expensive, too -- Singer versions are $190,000 to $360,000.
Three have been built so far; two others are in progress.

Dickinson, who grew up in England, says he's been a Porsche fan almost from the start. "I've been obsessed with the 911 since I was 5," he says.
He was trained in auto design but first chose a career that better lent itself to owning a series of Porsches: rock star.

He was lead singer in Catherine Wheel, a British alternative band that had two songs in the U.S. modern rock top 10 in the 1990s (Black Metallic and Crank). Hence the name Singer.

To gauge interest, he unveiled plans for a 911 that is "restored, reimagined and reborn" at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance auto show in 2009. "People's jaws were on the floor," he says. "We knew we were on to something." Shortly thereafter, Singer got its first orders.

Part of the buzz owes to the car's utility. It doesn't need to sit in the garage all week waiting for weekend track time, but can commute as well. The old Porsches get such modern amenities as a cup holder that juts out from under the passenger's seat, a 110-volt outlet for your laptop and, of course, a pullout iPod box.

Dickinson sweats the details. "He's fanatical," says Seamus Taaffe, Singer's production manager. "He sees things others can't see." Example: He spent six months finding the right xenon headlights.

But in the end it's performance that sells the car. That's what attracted Matt Strong, a serial Porsche owner who discovered Singer while Internet surfing, bought a car and then invested in the company.

"Once I got into the car and saw that it really was everything that I was hoping it would be, it upped my level of confidence in what Rob is doing," he says. "The Singer really has a lot of character put into it, and a lot of the modern conveniences that I've become accustomed to and don't want to live without."

Strong just received the first Singer. The lime-green model was shipped to him in Wisconsin. Despite the amenities, he doesn't plan on driving it a lot. "It will be fantastic at the track, but this one is too much of a piece of art for me."

Dickinson hopes to soon cut production time so he can build eight to 10 cars a year and he's looking for growth outside the U.S. as well, especially among the new rich in China.

"Building a car from scratch is a daunting task," Dickinson says. "The more we make, the better we'll get."
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:57 PM   #42
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The newest, white one, is much better looking, shown on Autoblog today.
http://photoremovedatrequestofphotog...-911-white.jpg
Autoblog Gallery - High-res Singer 911 in white

EDIT:damn. Autoblog linking is still defeated.

I can only imagine this car in alloy silver, with an oxblood red interior. Classic german-team racing livery.

or a nice steel blue.

Or a subtle dark gray

And the always classic Guards Red, or onyx black.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:27 PM   #43
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To each his own, but I've always thought the only reason to have an old car was because it's old. If you want a new car, you should buy a new one.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:29 PM   #44
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The newest, white one, is much better looking, shown on Autoblog today.
http://photoremovedatrequestofphotog...-911-white.jpg
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EDIT:damn. Autoblog linking is still defeated.

I can only imagine this car in alloy silver, with an oxblood red interior. Classic german-team racing livery.

or a nice steel blue.

Or a subtle dark gray

And the always classic Guards Red, or onyx black.
We don't agree on a lot of things, in fact, we're on opposite sides of many arguments, but I have never more vehemently disagreed with you, sir, the green one is much better looking.

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To each his own, but I've always thought the only reason to have an old car was because it's old. If you want a new car, you should buy a new one.
the reason to have an old car is because they look cool
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:26 PM   #46
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We don't agree on a lot of things, in fact, we're on opposite sides of many arguments, but I have never more vehemently disagreed with you, sir, the green one is much better looking.

Don't get me wrong... I don't dis-like the green one, or the bright orange first prototype.





But those are REALLY bright colors on what is resto-mod classic car.

The white is a bit more classic, for the classic nature of the car.

And to Stanley... I am guessing that most of Hot Rodding or Resto-modification then isn't your cup of tea...

They don't build new cars like this anymore, not even the amazing new 911s are like this. They are great, but not in the same way.

Singer doesn't preclude people from having a factory original, or a restored-to-original 911.

They just build the best 911 that they can, and some would argue the best 911 possible from the starting point of the 911/930 body-shell, rather than the newer 964, or 993, let alone the 996/997.

And everything is good to go, like a nut-and-bolt restoration that doesn't need to be a trailer-queen, but can actually be driven, and driven FAST.

Pristine originals probably don't get driven much, for the sake of preservation of that originality.
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:40 PM   #47
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But those are REALLY bright colors on what is resto-mod classic car.

The white is a bit more classic, for the classic nature of the car.
Period correct colors are period correct.




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Old 07-12-2011, 07:47 PM   #48
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Agreed. If I had a classic car of any kind, I would want it to be a restomod. Nobody buys an old car for the purpose of slow acceleration, ****ty fuel mileage, and boat-like handling.
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OK.

I'll admit some correction, despite the fact that I never claimed they weren't period correct, just that I thought they were a bit bright, and I liked the white better, for the aesthetic of a classic car.

I still think the orange and green are pretty bright, though, even if they are period-correct.

When I think of bright colored porsches... Gaurds Red appeals to me more.

And I usually think of 60's era colors, other than red, being a bit mellower, even though obviously bright green and bright orange are period correct, also. As is Mexico Blue, which I am not a big fan of.

They bright orange, or bright green seem less common to 60s and 70s 911s than milder colors like these, other than the Guards Red, and black.


It seems like the Singer, as well as the green example you posted, are using modern adaptations of the colors... they seem WAY color-saturated, when I think of original paint colors being a bit less saturated, more like this Leaf Green example.


One of those things where I say, colors like that are nice to see, but I don't know that they would be my choice to own.

I would go Silver with red interior, or Guards Red with black interior... or Ossi Blue with grey-trimmed interior.


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Nobody buys an old car for the purpose of slow acceleration, ****ty fuel mileage, and boat-like handling.
Right - that's exactly what these old Porsche's were like...slow acceleration and boat-like handling. Have you ever driven one?
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