"Toyobaru / Subayota" FT-86 (merged 3 threads)

shum_87 · 10-07-2009, 02:13 AM

Toyota and Subaru's new toy

that's awesome...but sad to say that the boxer rumble might be available on a toyota.

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Derfud · 10-07-2009, 02:43 AM

Last I heard it was going to be sold under Subaru in NA.

bobola · 10-07-2009, 03:44 AM

RWD and AWD options?!
Or just RWD?

sh1ftn · 10-07-2009, 04:10 AM

last i heard they hammered this project...i guess they had a change of heart.
subaru and mitsubishi should do somthin' like this (highly doubt it)

semaj · 10-07-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derfud

Last I heard it was going to be sold under Subaru in NA.

Not determined yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobola

RWD and AWD options?!
Or just RWD?

Just RWD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh1ftn

last i heard they hammered this project...i guess they had a change of heart.
subaru and mitsubishi should do somthin' like this (highly doubt it)

It has been always a go. There was a rumour about dropping it, but that was squashed quickly.

You guys need to read the News & Rumours forum more often, there is a lively discussion there about this car that's been going on since the first mention of the car.

sandman21_21 · 10-07-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derfud

Last I heard it was going to be sold under Subaru in NA.

I hope not. After having the N/A 2.5rs GC chassis when everyone else in the rest of the world had turboed options of that car... I hope they throw a nice engine in there.

gwilo · 10-07-2009, 01:37 PM

It is funny how the AE 86 is now such a great car ... Possibly the best car ever built.

But when it came out the car press hated it, old technology, poor set-up, under powered etc., Honda and Datsun had much better cars for the price.

Then come along some broke Japanese kids that are looking for a cheap rear wheel drive car to drift with (cause they figured out you can not do it in a Honda) and the AE86 becomes a legend.

semaj · 10-07-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman21_21

I hope not. After having the N/A 2.5rs GC chassis when everyone else in the rest of the world had turboed options of that car... I hope they throw a nice engine in there.

It will be a 2.0L NA Boxer everywhere in the world. Direct injection? Maybe. HP? 150-200 depending on DI or not.

kronizer · 10-07-2009, 02:52 PM

if they turbo charge this, i'd buy it. looks good imo.

semaj · 10-07-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronizer

if they turbo charge this, i'd buy it.

Don't count on that happening. The idea is to keep weight and cost down.

Danny Boy · 10-07-2009, 03:15 PM

200 HP N/A Subaru variant direct injection with some sort of Toyota technology for variable timing
2800 lb
RWD
$20K

That's what I've gathered, but who knows at this point.

This should be a very minimalistic, down to earth, affordable, fun car to drive.

I also predict that if this goes thru to production in 2011, that there will be an explosion of aftermarket development for the platform.

Necromancer · 10-07-2009, 04:31 PM

Wack interior. Love how the DVD slot is behind a zipper. The stoners are going to love this vehicle.

Why oh why couldn't they make it AWD? Something lighter and smaller than the current Impreza would be grrrrreat...

semaj · 10-07-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necromancer

Wack interior. Love how the DVD slot is behind a zipper. The stoners are going to love this vehicle.

Why oh why couldn't they make it AWD? Something lighter and smaller than the current Impreza would be grrrrreat...

The interior is concept car par for the course....it'll never see production.

Why couldn't they make it AWD? Because they're not trying to! The point is to be light, cheap, balanced....not nose heavy and expensive.

This is the spiritual successor to the AE86, not the GC8 Type-R.

Danny Boy · 10-07-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semaj

The interior is concept car par for the course....it'll never see production.

Why couldn't they make it AWD? Because they're not trying to! The point is to be light, cheap, balanced....not nose heavy and expensive.

This is the spiritual successor to the AE86, not the GC8 Type-R.

Bingo!

I'm ecstatic about this car. Finally someone understands that lightweight, decent power, RWD, and affordable sells.

gwilo · 10-07-2009, 06:12 PM

^

Like my other car

(ok take out affordable)

semaj · 10-07-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwilo

^

Like my other car

(ok take out affordable)

How about add "not girly"?

Miatas are fun cars that handle great, but I don't know about being seen cruising Robson in one

RMX · 10-07-2009, 07:11 PM

YouTube - Gran Turismo 5 - Toyota FT-86 Concept Video

Old video clip but still good.

promo for the FT-86 done by Polyphony Digital for GT5

gt-[r] · 10-07-2009, 07:12 PM

i love the exterior

the interior looks tacky

but **** this car is nice! now to get one in wrb...

Necromancer · 10-07-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Boy

Bingo!

I'm ecstatic about this car. Finally someone understands that lightweight, decent power, RWD, and affordable sells.

I can't believe you guys drive a Subaru.

Light and cheap RWD cars have been around since forever. A light and fast AWD car, on the other hand, is something a lot less common. Adding a pair of axles in front and a diff or two wouldn't kill the weight factor, especially with the boxer layout which is already well suited for AWD. They should have made it AWD.

semaj · 10-07-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necromancer

Light and cheap RWD cars have been around since forever.

Name 1 out right now besides the Miata, which is too girly and a ragtop.

And it's not only about "adding 2 axles and a diff", it's also about balance. They would have to move the boxer engine farther forward to accommodate the AWD, which would be detrimental to the weight balance. Think boxer engine BEHIND the front axle for a front-midship design.

007WRX · 10-07-2009, 08:26 PM

mr2, rx7, etc.

2wheelsx2 · 10-07-2009, 08:36 PM

Ummm...you're comparing 10+ year old cars to a brand new one? Might as well throw in the AE86 then.

rs420 · 10-07-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007WRX

mr2, rx7, etc.

ok, so maybe he means the rx8, hyundai gensis, lexus is250, 135i, 370z, sk2, chevy camaro, ford mustang, pontiac gto, ponitac solstice, saturn sky

conerychen · 10-07-2009, 09:38 PM

nice looking car nonetheless

007WRX · 10-07-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2wheelsx2

Ummm...you're comparing 10+ year old cars to a brand new one? Might as well throw in the AE86 then.

Might as well...

10-07-2009, 02:13 AM	#1
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Derfud Scooby Newbie Member#: 187549 Join Date: Aug 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Victoria/White Rock Vehicle: 2003 WRX Sedan Black	Last I heard it was going to be sold under Subaru in NA.

10-07-2009, 03:44 AM	#3
bobola Scooby Newbie Member#: 176277 Join Date: Apr 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 08 Impreza Black	RWD and AWD options?! Or just RWD?

10-07-2009, 04:10 AM	#4
sh1ftn Scooby Newbie Member#: 166645 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: VIC Vehicle: 02 WRX	last i heard they hammered this project...i guess they had a change of heart. subaru and mitsubishi should do somthin' like this (highly doubt it)

10-07-2009, 01:37 PM	#7
gwilo Scooby Newbie Member#: 205475 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Canada Vehicle: 92 Miata 220 rwhp Impreza 09 SP	It is funny how the AE 86 is now such a great car ... Possibly the best car ever built. But when it came out the car press hated it, old technology, poor set-up, under powered etc., Honda and Datsun had much better cars for the price. Then come along some broke Japanese kids that are looking for a cheap rear wheel drive car to drift with (cause they figured out you can not do it in a Honda) and the AE86 becomes a legend.

10-07-2009, 02:52 PM	#9
kronizer Scooby Newbie Member#: 184325 Join Date: Jul 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Victoria Vehicle: 2005 WRX silver	if they turbo charge this, i'd buy it. looks good imo.

10-07-2009, 03:15 PM	#11
Danny Boy Scooby Specialist Member#: 94938 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Vehicle: '99 Hybrid RS Coupe don't-pull-me-over Silver	200 HP N/A Subaru variant direct injection with some sort of Toyota technology for variable timing 2800 lb RWD $20K That's what I've gathered, but who knows at this point. This should be a very minimalistic, down to earth, affordable, fun car to drive. I also predict that if this goes thru to production in 2011, that there will be an explosion of aftermarket development for the platform.

10-07-2009, 04:31 PM	#12
Necromancer Scooby Specialist Member#: 477 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Vancouver Vehicle: GC4 -> GGA -> GM6 Yeah, that's about right.	Wack interior. Love how the DVD slot is behind a zipper. The stoners are going to love this vehicle. Why oh why couldn't they make it AWD? Something lighter and smaller than the current Impreza would be grrrrreat...

10-07-2009, 06:12 PM	#15
gwilo Scooby Newbie Member#: 205475 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Canada Vehicle: 92 Miata 220 rwhp Impreza 09 SP	^ Like my other car (ok take out affordable)

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10-07-2009, 08:36 PM	#22
2wheelsx2 Scooby Specialist Member#: 44045 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2004 Impreza WRX White	Ummm...you're comparing 10+ year old cars to a brand new one? Might as well throw in the AE86 then.

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