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Old 01-04-2011, 08:35 AM   #1
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Default The Return of the Biodiesel Plug-in Hybrid Turbine-Driven 1959 Lincoln Continental Co








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One of the more unique vehicles to visit the SEMA show in the fall of 2010 was a certain American-made product capable of 50 miles of all-electric driving and a further 350 miles of travel when powered by its onboard generator. The car put out zero tailpipe emissions using pure electricity, of course, and even when relying on its generator, the net result was about 40 percent fewer emissions than a Toyota Prius. The generator offered another bonus, too: When used to recharge the car, it was responsible for 48 percent fewer emissions than would be produced if the vehicle were plugged into the U.S. power grid—although that’s an option here, too. Oh, and when it is plugged in, any extra electricity could be fed back into the grid, too.

A secret Chevrolet Volt variant? Nope. A reincarnated vehicle from Chrysler’s ENVI project? Hardly. Some under-the-radar effort from Ford? Not exactly. It was none other than Neil Young’s LincVolt, a 1959 Lincoln Continental outfitted with a high-tech powertrain featuring a UQM 150-kW turbine motor, a bio-diesel “microturbine” generator from Capstone and 850 lbs. worth of lithium-iron phosphate batteries.

The bottom line was a 19.5-foot land yacht that weighed more than three tons yet still offered a Volt-esque all-electric driving range. As expected, the LincVolt’s actual mileage depended on a number of variables, but Young claimed that on a full charge, it racked up a 40-mpg mark to the first 100 miles and 20 mpg through 400. That’s not too shabby for a car with a 6,200-lb. curb weight and represents about double what a production ‘59 Continental could reach.


The thing is, as sharp-eyed grammarians may have noticed, I’ve been describing the LincVolt in the past tense, and that’s because it seems to have caught fire a few weeks back when it was in storage, with most signs pointing to a problem with the car’s plug-in hardware as the cause.
But look out, mama, there’s a white boat comin’ up the river, and it’s distinctly missing a big red beacon and a flag and a man on the rail (obligatory Neil Young lyric reference No. 1). In fact, it’s actually the LincVolt on a metaphorical voyage back to health. Apparently, Young and his automotive partners have dedicated themselves to rebuilding the car, with newer tech, and you can watch all the happenings—live and in concert—right here: http://www.shakeypictures.com/webcam/webcam.html.


So far, I’ve seen the burned-out shell of the Lincoln, sitting there all helpless, helpless, helpless (obligatory Neil Young lyric reference No. 2), and right now—3:43 p.m. ET—the site is showing the empty space in which the vehicle was sitting earlier today. But just wait until sweeps week!
http://www.lincvolt.com.)





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Old 01-04-2011, 10:20 AM   #2
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How the **** can they claim "even when relying on its generator, the net result was about 40 percent fewer emissions than a Toyota Prius" and then let slide later that the steady-stage charge-sustaining mileage is 20 mpg?

Does. Not. Compute. Those statements are mutually exclusive.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:58 AM   #3
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How the **** can they claim "even when relying on its generator, the net result was about 40 percent fewer emissions than a Toyota Prius" and then let slide later that the steady-stage charge-sustaining mileage is 20 mpg?

Does. Not. Compute. Those statements are mutually exclusive.
For the most part, you are right...

Some of it depends on how completely the turbine combusts it's diesel fuel, as to how many more "emissions" it puts out. It also depends on if they are comparing CO2 (which a diesel turbine would probably put out less than a gas engine), or particulate output (which a diesel anything would probably put out more than a gas engine)

It seems that 20mpg is kind of low for a diesel turbine that is steady-state running a generator, not revving up and down to directly drive the wheels.

I'd rather see a production CX-75 Jaguar supercar, as far as turbine-generated electric-drive cars go.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:58 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure Neil's first LincVolt started a massive fire on the peninsula recently. I give the guy credit for having another go at it. It's an interesting project.

Ah yes, here it is:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-11-1...r-storage-fire


And yes, it is difficult to compare a turbine generator running on biodiesel with a gas fired recip and the article does not give enough information to be useful at anything other than sensationalism.
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