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Old 01-04-2011, 11:14 AM   #26
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Mini buyers are slaves to fashion. No real other reason to buy one.
There are so many other 2600lb motorsports-worthy cars with a back seat to choose from.


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Why pay an STI price for a tiny cute car with horrendous torque steer that can be crushed by any SUV or truck.
STI price? You were doing it wrong.

Torque steer is manageable if you aren't a 98lb weakling trying to stand on the throttle over rough pavement. It's a fact of life for a FWD car with balls. This should have been obvious for anyone getting into a JCW.



Obviously the MINI would have looked worse and the F150 would have looked better had they actually crashed into each other.. but I know which of the two I'd rather still be in. Both could be crushed by a semi.

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I had a JCW and it was not even fun to drive imho.
Wow..
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:16 AM   #27
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:21 AM   #28
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.. and FWD.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:39 AM   #29
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:53 AM   #30
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E46 M3, Black (well, dirty), tinted windows (came that way), front and rear tow-hooks in (city parking aids), a few dents and a deep "keying" scratch on one front fender.

255s all around on 4 OE rear wheels (aka waayyy too much offset up front).

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just another poser
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:02 PM   #31
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Mini buyers are slaves to fashion. No real other reason to buy one.
Why pay an STI price for a tiny cute car with horrendous torque steer that can be crushed by any SUV or truck. Sitting in the back seat leaves you open to instantly getting destroyed by even a minor rear impact. I had a JCW and it was not even fun to drive imho.
It is in base for cute economical transportation that is ez to park in cities.
Not everyone is looking for turbo lagged 300 hp. You were basically saying why buy a fancy wool sweater when a cheaper thick sweat shirt will keep you warmer?

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E46 M3, Black (well, dirty), tinted windows (came that way), front and rear tow-hooks in (city parking aids), a few dents and a deep "keying" scratch on one front fender.

255s all around on 4 OE rear wheels (aka waayyy too much offset up front).

What say you?
If I was to guess, you were shopping on budget but still wanted the image and some performance. I've seen so many beat up "luxury" cars on the road that didnt get the level of care that they deserved because they fell into the the hands of people who simply dont make enough money to upkeep the car. Not saying that you are one of them, but seeing a nice car with dents and scratches makes me feel that way.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #32
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:41 PM   #33
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There are so many other 2600lb motorsports-worthy cars with a back seat to choose from.


STI price? You were doing it wrong.

Torque steer is manageable if you aren't a 98lb weakling trying to stand on the throttle over rough pavement. It's a fact of life for a FWD car with balls. This should have been obvious for anyone getting into a JCW.



Obviously the MINI would have looked worse and the F150 would have looked better had they actually crashed into each other.. but I know which of the two I'd rather still be in. Both could be crushed by a semi.

Wow..
I don't get how some cars (or trucks) are allowed to sell with such scary front-end collision results.
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #34
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If I was to guess, you were shopping on budget but still wanted the image and some performance.
The car was under my budget 4 years ago when I bought it. I'd think the lack of attention to the exterior would present the opposite of wanting "image".

Car is tracked 15+ days a year, driven 4 days a week, at least.

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I've seen so many beat up "luxury" cars on the road that didnt get the level of care that they deserved because they fell into the the hands of people who simply dont make enough money to upkeep the car:sadbanana.
What about people who are simply not that concerned about dings on a 10 year old BMW?



Anyway, no offense taken.

But to be honest, I'd rather be someone less concerned with looks, who actually USES their car, rather than someone with a prestine car who takes it to car meets.

Function over form. No "cosmetic" mods. Just Konis, bars, tons of brakes, and gas.
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:15 PM   #35
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just another poser


Fair enough. The car sees the track more than any other DD M3 that I know of.

I'd think "poser" would be someone with a freshly-waxed blvd. queen.
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:18 PM   #36
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Fair enough. The car sees the track more than any other DD M3 that I know of.

I'd think "poser" would be someone with a freshly-waxed blvd. queen.
well,
I know of someone that took there DD E36 M3 to 33 events last year...each 2 days or more.

Can you tell he really has nothing better to do with his time?
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:24 PM   #37
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well,
I know of someone that took there DD E36 M3 to 33 events last year...each 2 days or more.

Can you tell he really has nothing better to do with his time?


Or money. However, I fully support his insanity.

My GF did about half of my events with me co-driving. So I bet it has 30+ days on it this past season. Nothing close to 60+ days. Wow.
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