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Old 10-12-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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Zero Motorcycles has announced that their electric Zero S and Zero DS models have passed both U.S. and Canadian safety standards, and received a Certificate of Conformity from the Environmental Protection Agency. This means that buyers of the Zero S and DS are now eligible for a ten percent federal tax credit and sales tax credit as part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Santa Cruz, CA based Zero says theirs are the first electric motorcycles to pass the safety standards and achieve EPA certification. The company is claiming a 455-mpg equivalent for both the S and DS, which use the same lithium ion battery and 4 kWh electric motor.

Both models are street legal, although the DS (Dual Sport) is designed for a combination of on and off-road use. Zero claims a range of up to 50 miles, and a top speed of 55 mph. Recharge time is said to be less than four hours.

The Zero S and DS are priced at $9,950, a figure the company says will be reduced to $8,955 with the tax credit--still a hefty price for green motorcycling
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:01 PM   #2
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I wonder how they are going to handle license endorsements for these electric bikes. Right now they are based on engine size correct?
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:21 PM   #3
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How much would a comparable gas bike cost and what mpg would it get? How many miles would it take to save the extra cost?
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:07 PM   #4
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I bet thas a fast bike.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:51 PM   #5
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I'd get a Suzuki TU250X before this thing.

If you could charge this thing for free, and gas is $2.50/gal, then it'd take 169k miles to make up the difference.

That's not the issue. green-o-philes would be all over this thing. But normal people with jobs and bills just keep on laughing.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:35 AM   #6
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How much would a comparable gas bike cost and what mpg would it get? How many miles would it take to save the extra cost?
Not sure how to do the math here, but my SV650 gets about 50mpg at about 2.40 a gallon
We currently pay about .13 a kw...
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:40 AM   #7
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http://www.eco-wheelz.com/calculator.php

For me.........

Gas cost 14.40 a month based on 2.40 a gal and 15 mile round trip at 50mpg

Electric cost .60 a month based on 50 range at .10 a kw
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:51 AM   #8
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Not sure how to do the math here, but my SV650 gets about 50mpg at about 2.40 a gallon
We currently pay about .13 a kw...
that's a high price for electricity. in washington i paid 3.76 cents/kWh.

that said, electrics aren't going to sell themselves on price, because when you take battery life (as in the number of cycles before it loses capacity, not its per-charge capacity) into account the cost per mile is comparable to most gasoline powered vehicles. it's the environmental/whiz-bang/quietness/smoothness/national security/energy independence factor that'll be the driving force.
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it's the environmental/whiz-bang/quietness/smoothness/national security/energy independence factor that'll be the driving force.
Plus the more they sell the range will increase, they will go faster, and be cheaper. It all has to start somewhere.
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Electric bike will be a lot quieter; that might be a selling point for some people.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:36 AM   #11
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Nice idea. I'd consider one if they could top 55 (say...75, 80?), cost half what they do, and double the range.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:37 PM   #12
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It's an interesting thing to see. My job was only a couple miles from home, and there are no major highways on the commute. It would do for me as a commuter, but not as entertainment. That makes it questionable.

My opinion on price is skewed, just as it is for cars the same way, because I'm comfortable with used vehicles.

I agree that people who buy it wouldn't do so for money.
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Electric bike will be a lot quieter; that might be a selling point for some people.
just what people need, a quiet motorcycle.

*THUD* "What was that dear"?

"I'm not sure, probably just a pothole"
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just what people need, a quiet motorcycle.

*THUD* "What was that dear"?

"I'm not sure, probably just a pothole"
<shrug> A rider relying on his lack of a muffler to stay safe probably isn't going to last too long anyway. It's not like the exhaust points forward...
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I'd love to have an electric bike. I've had bikes since I was 5 years old, 30 years now and this would be the most interesting bike yet. I am a bit concerned about the lack of noise. I've been hit twice. Both times without an aftermarket exhaust. Got hit in Georgetown while driving next to a guy. He didn't knock me over, but it was scary getting pushed into oncoming traffic. Got hit on the beltway buy a Jetta. I caught his front bumper cover on my exhuast and ended up pulling it off. It dented the crap out of my exhuast. He accidentally pulled into my lane as I was passing. Both times, the drivers said they couldn't hear me.
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