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Old 10-13-2009, 01:43 PM   #1
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ALBANY — Some car owners are resorting to Scotch tape. Others try pressing and pressing against the windshield without success. Some, filled with frustration, are flooding the Department of Motor Vehicles with complaints.
Of all the ways New York State government fails to work, this is perhaps the most annoying. As many as two million of the nine million vehicle registration stickers issued this year don’t stick.

And in an only-in-Albany coincidence, up to 2.5 million of the 13.5 million inspection stickers distributed this year have the same problem.

Two separate companies based in Chicago produced the stickers, and both failed to catch the defect, leaving many drivers across the state dealing with an outbreak of bad glue.

The situation is bad enough that police departments have been asked to be lenient toward drivers whose stickers have come off. And even the commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles, David J. Swarts, has had to scramble to secure the stickers on his wife’s sedan with tape.

“They don’t stick,” said Daniel Feldman, 38, a business executive who lives in Brooklyn and owns a Honda Civic and a Volvo wagon. “I’ve had this discussion with, like, a thousand people. It’s funny — I just got a new car and I’m already dreading getting the next sticker.”

For their part, officials at the Department of Motor Vehicles have been scratching their heads and chagrined. “Why both happened at the same time — two different vendors, two different processes, two different types of stickers — it’s really a bizarre occurrence,” Mr. Swarts said. “When people are paying fees and fees are going up, it makes people frustrated and angry.”

Indeed, the adhesive woes are occurring as the state, which is confronting a growing budget deficit, has raised registration fees by about 25 percent for most vehicle owners. And drivers in New York City and the surrounding counties have to pay a $50 registration surcharge to help close the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s deficit. The price for inspection stickers has not changed.

The companies that manufactured the stickers each had contracts to make decals for 2009 and 2010. The contracts are not considered very lucrative, and there has been no suggestion that there was anything unusual about the awarding of the work.

In fact, RR Donnelley was the only bidder for the roughly $1 million registration sticker contract and has made New York’s stickers for the past several years. The state is negotiating with RR Donnelley over compensation for the faulty stickers and has not said whether it would sign another contract with the company.

The state has already decided not to sign another contract with SecureMark Decal, which was paid $660,000 to make inspection stickers. The company has agreed to provide 1.4 million replacement inspection stickers at no cost. Neither company responded to telephone calls or e-mail messages.
The Department of Motor Vehicles issued a public notice about the defective stickers in May, and has asked law enforcement officials to be a little more understanding about giving tickets to drivers with missing stickers.

The agency will replace faulty stickers at no charge, though only a fraction of those affected have taken it up on the offer, tape being the preferred remedy.

Having the stickers come unglued is more than a nuisance. The fine for an improperly displayed inspection sticker can be $50 to $100, while the ticket for the same infraction with a registration sticker is $100. Both tickets also carry a surcharge of at least $80.

Police departments say they are aware that motorists with peeling stickers may have a valid excuse.

“Police officers and parking enforcement agents have been instructed about the problem and directed to use discretion,” said Paul J. Browne, chief spokesman for the New York Police Department.

Sgt. Kern Swoboda, a spokesman for the state police, said the department sent out notices to its officers recommending that they not issue tickets for stickers that are not properly attached. Still, there is no guarantee that a driver will escape penalty. “A lot of it depends on the discretion of the officer,” Sergeant Swoboda said, adding that if there was no evidence of a sticker — for instance, traces of tape or adhesive on the window — a ticket would probably be issued.

The sheer number of registration and inspection stickers sold every year means that there will always be a number of stickers that do not stay where they are supposed to. But the Department of Motor Vehicles, which learned about the problem after getting complaints from motorists, said the problem this year had been overwhelming.

Of the two, the registration sticker problem appears prevalent. An unscientific survey of a block of State Street near the Capitol yielded these results: Fifteen cars were parked, two from out of state; of the remaining 13, 7 had signs of profound registration sticker distress.

There was a Mercury van whose sticker was folded nearly into a little tube, a Toyota Siena with half of its sticker detached and a Nissan Sentra with a sticker attached with tape. The sticker on a Dodge Caravan had almost fallen off, except for a sliver of one corner.

John Webber, 47, who lives in Brooklyn, said the registration stickers had come loose on his Buick sedan and Chevrolet van. “I’ve had to use tape to put it back on,” he said.
So could this be a trick to raise revenue in hard times?
“I know they have the right glue,” said Debi Ryan, 52, of Brooklyn. She pointed out that “you can never get off” the stickers that the Department of Sanitation plasters on illegally parked cars.

“That’s the glue that they should use for the registration, which comes off like that!” she said, snapping her fingers.
Perhaps New Yorkers should not be surprised about stickers not sticking, given the way the state’s government seems to malfunction — a governor resigning amid a prostitution scandal, his successor under fire and urged by the White House not to run for office next year, and a Legislature whose power struggles prevent it from tackling major issues.

Liena Zagare, 33, who lives in Brooklyn, had to resort to tape. “I didn’t really know who to complain to, but we did joke that somebody had a good contract,” she said.

Steven Dubin, 49, of Monsey, N.Y., said the garage he used had widespread sticker problems. “They were giving out printed certificates that the car passed inspection in case the sticker blew out the window,” he said, adding that he had never had such a problem before. “And I know how to put on a sticker.”
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:28 PM   #2
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haha every car ive ever tagged in ny the sticker came off.. why dont they just go to license plate tag like most other states...
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, i hate this. Mine looks like that pic. The ny ones use to stick but then they changed to make the glue only a small ring around it, which i was happy for at first but not anymore. i would gladly put on my lic plate
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:13 PM   #4
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My buddy's dad got ticketed for improper display once for using tape. Guess the cop was ticked and looked for every reason to write him up.

I finally took my NY reg/insp stickers off several months ago after being in Indy for a while. Had to scrape and scrape and use goo gone and there's still a residue. These were last years stickers though.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:34 PM   #5
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I use a clear static film that you stick the sticker to. Then the static film attaches to the window.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:03 PM   #6
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NYS, the most advanced thinking state in good ole' US of A.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:53 PM   #7
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The stickers do suck bad.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:56 PM   #8
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So maybe I'm just uninformed but what is the point of these stickers anyway? Why are they required and what do they represent?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:02 PM   #9
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So maybe I'm just uninformed but what is the point of these stickers anyway? Why are they required and what do they represent?
So traffic agents can scan your registration and automatically fill in their ticket with your information for them so there are no mistakes mad and you cant get out of tickets with mistakes now!
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:14 PM   #10
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So maybe I'm just uninformed but what is the point of these stickers anyway? Why are they required and what do they represent?
Also has i think your Cars VIN number on and Car color.. etc etc etc

I still have my old sticker on the car from when it was white so any meter maid can go fist themselves.. When they goto enter it the information is wrong.. So awesome!
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:46 PM   #11
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Damn, I'm glad we don't have that here... yet. I know anything that makes it easier to rape the citizens will spread everywhere at lightning speed.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:52 PM   #12
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haha every car ive ever tagged in ny the sticker came off.. why dont they just go to license plate tag like most other states...
Harder to steal and fake, so they say.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:35 AM   #13
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yeah mine fell off the dealership put it on when i bought the car i kept losing it everytime i hit boost
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Also has i think your Cars VIN number on and Car color.. etc etc etc
VIN, make, model, year, color, and address too I believe. They print them with a background pattern similar to other anti-copy instruments (money, checks, etc).
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:26 AM   #15
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My new inspection sticker won't stay on. Annoying.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:54 PM   #16
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Any reason they cannot just have a DATABASE based on NUMBERPLATES and get all the data from that, without any silly stickers?
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So traffic agents can scan your registration and automatically fill in their ticket with your information for them so there are no mistakes mad and you cant get out of tickets with mistakes now!
a police officer (not meter maid, or traffic police, i am talking regular NYPD guy in a cruiser) gave me multiple tickets for parking my bike on the fence here in manhattan.

Tickets ranged from parking on the sidewalk, improper chaining, improper registration, inspection, no plates, hidden vin.

since i had no plates, they used the VIN number to get my registration info etc and proceeded to give me tickets based on that..

I claimed that since the officer was able to get my VIN, it wasnt obscured and therefore that ticket is not valid. following this line of reasoning i then maintained that the officer was not in sound mind to issue the remaining tickets and had all of them dismissed.
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That last line is gold! This requires more story...such as the reaction on the cops face. (and what is the fence?)
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:55 PM   #19
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We had this issue either in PA one year, recently, or in NH before I moved here. I forget. One particular year the adhesive was no good.
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That last line is gold! This requires more story...such as the reaction on the cops face. (and what is the fence?)
the bike was chained to a chain link fence ( i have the owners permission).

i mailed the tickets in. they took over a year to resolve the issue. I realized that in NY always always fight your tickets. Even when you are 100% in the wrong you might get cut a break (they discount the ticket to avoid court fees).
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:21 PM   #21
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Hilarious! I recently renewed registration and applied it to the tag, in doing so I wiped more than half the number of the month off applying it. I think states are beginning to skimp on stuff like this to make up for other outrageous spending.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:30 AM   #22
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i mailed the tickets in. they took over a year to resolve the issue. I realized that in NY always always fight your tickets. Even when you are 100% in the wrong you might get cut a break (they discount the ticket to avoid court fees).
Yeah. I learned that too. When the court told me to change my plea. I was kinda After that I didn't care about tickets anymore because they always got reduced.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:02 PM   #23
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autoblog has a post about this too. (ok, their source was the times as well)
and linked to nys dmv instructions

How do I replace an inspection sticker?

If the sticker did not remain attached to your windshield, you can attach the sticker to the windshield again with clear tape or a small amount of clear adhesive. Remember that an inspection station must be able to remove the sticker during your next inspection.

If your sticker is not usable or you do not have the original inspection sticker, you can have your vehicle re-inspected or you can follow the instructions below.

Send a request for replacement to the DMV, indicate the reason for the replacement, and include either a copy of your inspection receipt OR the following information:

the serial number of the original inspection sticker, if available, and
the year and make of the vehicle, and
the vehicle plate number, and
the odometer reading at the time of the last inspection, and
the date of the last inspection, and
your daytime phone number.
The fee for the replacement is $2. (See the note below about known defects in some 2010 stickers.)

Send the required items and a personal check or money order payable to "Commissioner of Motor Vehicles" to:

Bureau of Consumer and Facility Services
Division of Vehicle Safety Services
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P.O. Box 2700-ESP
Albany, NY 12220-0700
Note about 2010 Stickers with a Known Defect: The DMV knows of a defect in some inspection stickers that have a 2010 expiration date. These stickers are gray in color. The replacement fee will be waived if you have one of these stickers that does not correctly adhere to your windshield. In your request for a replacement sticker, indicate that this replacement is for a "defective sticker". Read the DMV press release about the inspection sticker and vehicle registration issues.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:05 PM   #24
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I thought they fixed this already? I heard this on the news some months ago.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:10 PM   #25
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Talk about a sticky situation.









Or rather, lack thereof.
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