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Old 09-06-2011, 04:55 PM   #751
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If somehow, he can put up how he did it for the 16 bits, I am quite sure some people around here could pick-up and do it for the 32 bits.

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i am selling my 06 WRX and buying an 03.


everything i want is now avilable on the 16 bit ECU BOOOOO
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:59 PM   #752
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Freon has already done SD on 32 bit for an 04sti so that would probably be a better starting point
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:00 PM   #753
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Yep the SD part was done, I was talking about the other features..

anyway I am more interested on how he did it. From there, once it is clearly explained, it can be applied toward other features hopefully (not easily, I know).

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:02 PM   #754
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Ah. Well given that freons has been out for so long and sd hasn't been added to other 32bits, I wouldn't hold your breadth.

I thought u were good at that stuff?
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:05 PM   #755
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I tried to poke Freon but he have no more time for that.

I am missing some pieces of the puzzle obviously...

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Ah. Well given that freons has been out for so long and sd hasn't been added to other 32bits, I wouldn't hold your breadth.

I thought u were good at that stuff?
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:07 PM   #756
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i am selling my 06 WRX and buying an 03.


everything i want is now avilable on the 16 bit ECU BOOOOO

and future rotational idle WTF

post up videos of some of these features (ALS AND LC :P) and how they work.
I'll post up some video's eventually if I ever find some time between work and school to actually work on MY car.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:38 PM   #757
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I would have been satisfied with just the CEL fix. All the other additional stuff makes it even more enticing...
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:57 AM   #758
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carberry rocks!!!!! all functions work perfectly!!!! Finally got my AL to work!!!
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #759
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:44 PM   #760
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^^^ in the above video, sorry to say this, but that is NOT antilag. A crapy LC perhaps.... but not ALS
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:50 PM   #761
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Yeah. Thats a video of people laughing as the owner destroys his car

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Old 09-12-2011, 06:11 PM   #762
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I am just waiting for all the "I just popped my motor or my turbo is gone" threads....

Grp_N rom with its LC and ALS is NOT meant for street.

And then they will blame the Grp_N rom….
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:22 PM   #763
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^Anyone with the knowledge to flash these maps should have some idea of the damage it can cause... if people want to destroy their turbo's, oh well...

For the people who actually want to use it for racing events it will help them save some coin.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:29 PM   #764
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02Rex,
That is true, but how many people actually know. Or actually know what LC / ALS is and where and why it’s used, not just for the bang… bang… bang effect. That’s the problem I see here.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:53 PM   #765
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^Anyone with the knowledge to flash these maps should have some idea of the damage it can cause...
u give people way too much credit
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:14 PM   #766
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first of all.... if it does blow the motor or turbo is not an issue, i didnt know this threat was meant to criticize how you use features of this map... I know what of consequences to expect using it, dont see what make you think i am completly confused about the real application, what it does or what could happen if i use it!!!!!If it does blow is my money not yours, so dont worry about it!!!!

The whole purpose of the video was show how this new map work on a car and not to give some people a reason to hate

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Old 09-12-2011, 08:19 PM   #767
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^^^ in the above video, sorry to say this, but that is NOT antilag. A crapy LC perhaps.... but not ALS
completely right about the crappy LC, but it actually is antilag, is just because of where the RPM are set on the LC ... it is boosting at least 4 lbs off throttle while you drive!! It behave way different while you are driving!
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:01 PM   #768
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I am just waiting for all the "I just popped my motor or my turbo is gone" threads....

Grp_N rom with its LC and ALS is NOT meant for street.

And then they will blame the Grp_N rom….

gtfo noob. seriously.
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:18 PM   #769
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u give people way too much credit
Probably true.

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Old 09-12-2011, 11:57 PM   #770
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gtfo noob. seriously.
ya, what ever. you must be the know it all then....
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:46 AM   #771
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Hey guys no need to bash on each other. This is supposed to be a fun thing.

The anti-lag actually does work pretty well. While driving, the car just wants to "go" all the time. If you let off the throttle and get back into it there is literally no transient lag at all, it gives it almost a powerful "NA" feel. And this is just using the IAC valve for extra air flow which is minimal. If you were to actually put on a throttle kicker or lock the throttle open a bit I bet it would be pretty crazy.

Granted anti-lag is more stressful on engine components, but if you are just using IAC valve fed anti-lag it really isn't as harsh as you would think. Revving your engine at a standstill and letting it pop back down to idle is probably harsher than when you are actually driving where the effect only comes into play on throttle lift.


Anyway, the next version should be out very soon with map switching and a more aggressive launch control



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Old 09-13-2011, 01:24 AM   #772
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Hi Jason,
You are correct about the effectiveness of ALS with the stock IACV (as it can’t introduce enough air into the system), and that it will not produce any serious boost off throttle. The thing I was getting at is the fact that most people don’t know what “true” antilag is, how it works, what it is meant for, and how stressful it is on the actual engine components and exhaust components when run in/on proper settings (read as: in giving you 15+psi of boost when off throttle).
When it is ON, it is not a fun car to drive on street, as there is absolutely no engine braking, and also the lovely sound ALS produces is like screaming “hey cops I am here!!! , please give me a ticket”.
Why do you think all the proper rally cars have a “ALS switch” to disable it when not needed.
I have used LC/ ALS on many standalones for over a decade and actually used the Grp_N rom for many years, heck, I have run it on my car way before it was available here or on RR.

All I am saying is that please be cautious when using LC and ALS in its proper form/setup, as it can cost you $$$$$.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:25 AM   #773
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oh, by the way, interesting and good work on the ROM modifications....
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:00 AM   #774
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Hi Jason,
You are correct about the effectiveness of ALS with the stock IACV (as it can’t introduce enough air into the system), and that it will not produce any serious boost off throttle. The thing I was getting at is the fact that most people don’t know what “true” antilag is, how it works, what it is meant for, and how stressful it is on the actual engine components and exhaust components when run in/on proper settings (read as: in giving you 15+psi of boost when off throttle).
When it is ON, it is not a fun car to drive on street, as there is absolutely no engine braking, and also the lovely sound ALS produces is like screaming “hey cops I am here!!! , please give me a ticket”.
Why do you think all the proper rally cars have a “ALS switch” to disable it when not needed.
I have used LC/ ALS on many standalones for over a decade and actually used the Grp_N rom for many years, heck, I have run it on my car way before it was available here or on RR.

All I am saying is that please be cautious when using LC and ALS in its proper form/setup, as it can cost you $$$$$.

thank you, you are the 1209427389454265432 person on here to state this. and everyone is still here reguardless.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:01 AM   #775
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Hi Jason,
You are correct about the effectiveness of ALS with the stock IACV (as it can’t introduce enough air into the system), and that it will not produce any serious boost off throttle. The thing I was getting at is the fact that most people don’t know what “true” antilag is, how it works, what it is meant for, and how stressful it is on the actual engine components and exhaust components when run in/on proper settings (read as: in giving you 15+psi of boost when off throttle).
When it is ON, it is not a fun car to drive on street, as there is absolutely no engine braking, and also the lovely sound ALS produces is like screaming “hey cops I am here!!! , please give me a ticket”.
Why do you think all the proper rally cars have a “ALS switch” to disable it when not needed.
I have used LC/ ALS on many standalones for over a decade and actually used the Grp_N rom for many years, heck, I have run it on my car way before it was available here or on RR.

All I am saying is that please be cautious when using LC and ALS in its proper form/setup, as it can cost you $$$$$.
this map comes with a switch, that maybe the why is much better to use now that you can turn it on and off when there is cops around!
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