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Old 09-13-2011, 10:04 AM   #776
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Hey guys no need to bash on each other. This is supposed to be a fun thing.

The anti-lag actually does work pretty well. While driving, the car just wants to "go" all the time. If you let off the throttle and get back into it there is literally no transient lag at all, it gives it almost a powerful "NA" feel. And this is just using the IAC valve for extra air flow which is minimal. If you were to actually put on a throttle kicker or lock the throttle open a bit I bet it would be pretty crazy.

Granted anti-lag is more stressful on engine components, but if you are just using IAC valve fed anti-lag it really isn't as harsh as you would think. Revving your engine at a standstill and letting it pop back down to idle is probably harsher than when you are actually driving where the effect only comes into play on throttle lift.


Anyway, the next version should be out very soon with map switching and a more aggressive launch control



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Now that u mentioned, it actually feels like an NA while you take of..... lol
Was looking a word to describe it but i think that how it feels like!!!!
awesome job jason!!
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:11 AM   #777
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Whatturbolag, what is your problem with me ?
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:45 AM   #778
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^Some people are just aholes to anyone who opposes them. Don't take it personal.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:50 AM   #779
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Whatturbolag, what is your problem with me ?
Dont take it in bad way but i think what he is trying to say is we know the pros, cons and how to use anti lag and even better how to use the group N map, and those non constructive comments are not necessary!!!

I dont think there is something to debate here about this topic, lets concentrate in the purpose of this threat!!!
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:47 AM   #780
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I'll have to use the anti lag as my new pre turbo exhaust leak tester.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:02 PM   #781
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hahaha.... nice... if dont have a leak it will make one for you!!!
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:27 PM   #782
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this map comes with a switch, that maybe the why is much better to use now that you can turn it on and off when there is cops around!
or not even run it on the street and just for competition/showing off to your friends



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im not usually an ass, just see below.



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Dont take it in bad way but i think what he is trying to say is we know the pros, cons and how to use anti lag and even better how to use the group N map, and those non constructive comments are not necessary!!!


I dont think there is something to debate here about this topic, lets concentrate in the purpose of this threat!!!


this is why, its been in devlopment for so long and it takes a certian knowlege to even run this map. they know what they are getting into by using it and its been beaten to hell by every subaru noob on this forum that it will blow up your car if you use any form of it...

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Old 09-13-2011, 01:42 PM   #783
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or not even run it on the street and just for competition/showing off to your friends
Yeahhhhh!!! hahhaa
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:01 PM   #784
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Hey guys no need to bash on each other. This is supposed to be a fun thing.

The anti-lag actually does work pretty well. While driving, the car just wants to "go" all the time. If you let off the throttle and get back into it there is literally no transient lag at all, it gives it almost a powerful "NA" feel. And this is just using the IAC valve for extra air flow which is minimal. If you were to actually put on a throttle kicker or lock the throttle open a bit I bet it would be pretty crazy.

Granted anti-lag is more stressful on engine components, but if you are just using IAC valve fed anti-lag it really isn't as harsh as you would think. Revving your engine at a standstill and letting it pop back down to idle is probably harsher than when you are actually driving where the effect only comes into play on throttle lift.


Anyway, the next version should be out very soon with map switching and a more aggressive launch control



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Jason,

Is it safe to turn the ALS in the rom as is? Any advice before turning it on will be appreciated.

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Old 09-13-2011, 02:49 PM   #785
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Jason,

Is it safe to turn the ALS in the rom as is? Any advice before turning it on will be appreciated.

Wil
i didnt check the AFR with the base map, on my map i changed timing, AFR table and load compensation table before even started my car the first time, i can tell you for sure it make a difference in the way you set those, so i will make sure your AFR are safe before you turn AL.

I think the best answer can be given by jason!
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:24 PM   #786
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i didnt check the AFR with the base map, on my map i changed timing, AFR table and load compensation table before even started my car the first time, i can tell you for sure it make a difference in the way you set those, so i will make sure your AFR are safe before you turn AL.

I think the best answer can be given by jason!
My friends car already has the old SD rom and we just tuned the car so i know that fueling is good. I will just copy everything over and drive around first to make sure is good before i turn on the ALS. So is as easy as checking the box and hitting the deffrost switch to turn it on or off?

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Old 09-13-2011, 03:40 PM   #787
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My friends car already has the old SD rom and we just tuned the car so i know that fueling is good. I will just copy everything over and drive around first to make sure is good before i turn on the ALS. So is as easy as checking the box and hitting the deffrost switch to turn it on or off?

Wil
it is as simple as turn the switch off and on as long the car is in between temp threshold it will activate!

Now, in the same way i did you can just copy from the previous map into this one, but be careful that the tables have same values, as jason explained, you need to open your previous map with carberry definition to get load compensation table right, apparently there is a difference in this table if you load it with a different definition, so just use carberry def and copy that table to the new map!
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:29 PM   #788
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Jason,

Is it safe to turn the ALS in the rom as is? Any advice before turning it on will be appreciated.

Wil

All the anti-lag stuff is still the same as the group-n rom, on my car I think I just changed the "idle target fueling (anti-lag active)" to 12.xx (cant remember exactly but basically just richened it up a bit). Another thing you may want to do if you extensively use the anti-lag is to relocate your 02 sensor from your header to your downpipe as it could break apart and damage your turbine on your turbo.

And as kbaldi_29 said, use the CarBerry defs to open your old SD tune and then copy everything over.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:33 PM   #789
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good that you mentioned the o2 part.... the scaling on this map is for the o2 sensor on downpipe or header? i used the scaling of grp n map because i know that one is on downpipe!
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:44 PM   #790
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Location should not matter for scaling. I believe the scaling is sensor dependent.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:55 PM   #791
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Location should not matter for scaling. I believe the scaling is sensor dependent.
i been under the idea all this time that i was... so good to know.... thanks
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:09 AM   #792
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noob question ... : where to find carberry defs?
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:23 AM   #793
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Go to the link in post #740.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:35 AM   #794
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Will there be any way to eventually ditch the stock o2 sensor and instead use a 0-5 volt signal from where the tgv sensors used to be? It would be a huge plus to be able to tune with and use after market wide bands as the o2 sensor. That and I heard talk of using a tgv sensor input for an ethanol content sensor?
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:14 PM   #795
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Will there be any way to eventually ditch the stock o2 sensor and instead use a 0-5 volt signal from where the tgv sensors used to be? It would be a huge plus to be able to tune with and use after market wide bands as the o2 sensor. That and I heard talk of using a tgv sensor input for an ethanol content sensor?
This is definitely possible, if enough people are interested I can implement it.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:36 PM   #796
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I noticed some people on the romraider forums were talking about the ethanol sensor. Haven't seen anyone talking about the oxygen sensor thing though
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:40 PM   #797
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I noticed some people on the romraider forums were talking about the ethanol sensor. Haven't seen anyone talking about the oxygen sensor thing though
I'd rather stick with the stock Do sensor for closed loop fuelling. They seem to last longer.
As for the ethanol content sensor, I'm the one who asked for it, and yes I'm still interested in using it, but the car will be going away for the winter.
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:39 PM   #798
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Even if we could data log a wide band with the stock ecu it would be worth it.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:08 PM   #799
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Even if we could data log a wide band with the stock ecu it would be worth it.
Romraider can actually already do this with aem and innovate
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:19 PM   #800
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Romraider can actually already do this with aem and innovate
I mean to be able to wire it directly to the ecu.
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